Right path to Delta
01-01-2019, 08:05 AM
#11
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A Delta pilot recommendation only means your application gets scored. It may not be enough to get called for an interview. You can research what Delta gives points for. The Endeavor DGI means you go to interview regardless, but the pass rate has been lower.
The way Delta does it, posting the app itself doesn't do much unless you're a former astronaut. Need an internal/job fair meeting/guarantee program to trigger your application getting scored.
The way Delta does it, posting the app itself doesn't do much unless you're a former astronaut. Need an internal/job fair meeting/guarantee program to trigger your application getting scored.
01-01-2019, 09:15 AM
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Yes I've heard that internal recommendations can get the job done. So having a Delta pilot who sends a recommendation means I wont necessarily need to go to a regional that has a "guaranteed application review?" or having that kind of program will add more weight to my chances of getting my App pulled out of the pool?
Also should I post my App right after I meet the hiring minimums? Or should I wait until I get very competitive?
Also should I post my App right after I meet the hiring minimums? Or should I wait until I get very competitive?
Fill it out the second you meet the mins, and then update frequently. At least every 6 months, but every month when you're logging FW time is the best way.
Not sure how much flexibility you have with going to training, but try and avoid going the second you finish training at the airline. There's an FAA requirement that you get at least 100 hours in 120 days (I think the clock starts at checkride date but not 100% on that). There's a small window to extend that by a month, but you'll really want to get those 100 hours locked in. That way you can go out for medium term leaves and not have to retrain. You'll still have to go to the sim prior to returning to the line for 3 landings if you've been gone more than 90 days without 3 landings, but its way less re-training than if you never "consolidated" (gotten the 100 hours in the 120 day window).
01-01-2019, 10:14 AM
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Right on the first count. Any DL pilot can generate an app review as long as your app is in and meets the mins.
Fill it out the second you meet the mins, and then update frequently. At least every 6 months, but every month when you're logging FW time is the best way.
Not sure how much flexibility you have with going to training, but try and avoid going the second you finish training at the airline. There's an FAA requirement that you get at least 100 hours in 120 days (I think the clock starts at checkride date but not 100% on that). There's a small window to extend that by a month, but you'll really want to get those 100 hours locked in. That way you can go out for medium term leaves and not have to retrain. You'll still have to go to the sim prior to returning to the line for 3 landings if you've been gone more than 90 days without 3 landings, but its way less re-training than if you never "consolidated" (gotten the 100 hours in the 120 day window).
Fill it out the second you meet the mins, and then update frequently. At least every 6 months, but every month when you're logging FW time is the best way.
Not sure how much flexibility you have with going to training, but try and avoid going the second you finish training at the airline. There's an FAA requirement that you get at least 100 hours in 120 days (I think the clock starts at checkride date but not 100% on that). There's a small window to extend that by a month, but you'll really want to get those 100 hours locked in. That way you can go out for medium term leaves and not have to retrain. You'll still have to go to the sim prior to returning to the line for 3 landings if you've been gone more than 90 days without 3 landings, but its way less re-training than if you never "consolidated" (gotten the 100 hours in the 120 day window).
When it comes to recommendations from a Delta pilot, does it needs to be more than one? Or one Will suffice? My mentor is a Delta pilot who I met through OBAP and he is also helping me out with the app fill out etc. Also he told me when the time comes he will send a recommendation.
Also my unit commander told me I can count on him for a recommendation, can I add it even thou it is not from an airline background?
01-01-2019, 10:28 AM
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Thank you, I appreciate your advice!
When it comes to recommendations from a Delta pilot, does it needs to be more than one? Or one Will suffice? My mentor is a Delta pilot who I met through OBAP and he is also helping me out with the app fill out etc. Also he told me when the time comes he will send a recommendation.
Also my unit commander told me I can count on him for a recommendation, can I add it even thou it is not from an airline background?
When it comes to recommendations from a Delta pilot, does it needs to be more than one? Or one Will suffice? My mentor is a Delta pilot who I met through OBAP and he is also helping me out with the app fill out etc. Also he told me when the time comes he will send a recommendation.
Also my unit commander told me I can count on him for a recommendation, can I add it even thou it is not from an airline background?
There’s no limit to how many recommendations you can get submitted on your behalf. However, your app will only be scored once every 12 months. So, it’s best to space your recommendations out to take advantage of as many app scoring opportunities as you can.
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01-01-2019, 01:52 PM
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Just to be clear and combine some of the responses above, there are two things that can be termed “recommendations” when applying to DAL. They are easily confused.
1) the “internal recommendation email.” Any current Delta pilot can write an email to pilot selection requesting that candidate W. T. Door have her application scored. This email causes the subject application to be scored by pilot selection. If the score meets the current criteria, an interview offer is extended. The interview criteria are difficult to impossible to know and change over time. If your application does not meet the interview criteria, it will not be scored again for twelve months. This twelve-month recycle period means that you should consider your timing for calling in this favor carefully. A current DAL pilot has no limit on sending these emails but a second request inside an existing 12-month hold period will not cause an application to be rescored early.
2) The application recommendation. This is an entry in your application on airlineapps.com and can be written for you by anybody you invite to submit one. You, the applicant, submit the email address of the individual writing the recc for you. That person receives an automated invitation from airline apps and writes about you. This recommendation DOES NOT trigger any application review, but is part of your application both for scoring purposes and during your interview. This is the place that battalion commanders and such can write about your focus on safety, outstanding leadership and aversion to kryptonite.
Hope this helps.
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1) the “internal recommendation email.” Any current Delta pilot can write an email to pilot selection requesting that candidate W. T. Door have her application scored. This email causes the subject application to be scored by pilot selection. If the score meets the current criteria, an interview offer is extended. The interview criteria are difficult to impossible to know and change over time. If your application does not meet the interview criteria, it will not be scored again for twelve months. This twelve-month recycle period means that you should consider your timing for calling in this favor carefully. A current DAL pilot has no limit on sending these emails but a second request inside an existing 12-month hold period will not cause an application to be rescored early.
2) The application recommendation. This is an entry in your application on airlineapps.com and can be written for you by anybody you invite to submit one. You, the applicant, submit the email address of the individual writing the recc for you. That person receives an automated invitation from airline apps and writes about you. This recommendation DOES NOT trigger any application review, but is part of your application both for scoring purposes and during your interview. This is the place that battalion commanders and such can write about your focus on safety, outstanding leadership and aversion to kryptonite.
Hope this helps.
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01-01-2019, 02:22 PM
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Just to be clear and combine some of the responses above, there are two things that can be termed “recommendations” when applying to DAL. They are easily confused.
1) the “internal recommendation email.” Any current Delta pilot can write an email to pilot selection requesting that candidate W. T. Door have her application scored. This email causes the subject application to be scored by pilot selection. If the score meets the current criteria, an interview offer is extended. The interview criteria are difficult to impossible to know and change over time. If your application does not meet the interview criteria, it will not be scored again for twelve months. This twelve-month recycle period means that you should consider your timing for calling in this favor carefully. A current DAL pilot has no limit on sending these emails but a second request inside an existing 12-month hold period will not cause an application to be rescored early.
2) The application recommendation. This is an entry in your application on airlineapps.com and can be written for you by anybody you invite to submit one. You, the applicant, submit the email address of the individual writing the recc for you. That person receives an automated invitation from airline apps and writes about you. This recommendation DOES NOT trigger any application review, but is part of your application both for scoring purposes and during your interview. This is the place that battalion commanders and such can write about your focus on safety, outstanding leadership and aversion to kryptonite.
Hope this helps.
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1) the “internal recommendation email.” Any current Delta pilot can write an email to pilot selection requesting that candidate W. T. Door have her application scored. This email causes the subject application to be scored by pilot selection. If the score meets the current criteria, an interview offer is extended. The interview criteria are difficult to impossible to know and change over time. If your application does not meet the interview criteria, it will not be scored again for twelve months. This twelve-month recycle period means that you should consider your timing for calling in this favor carefully. A current DAL pilot has no limit on sending these emails but a second request inside an existing 12-month hold period will not cause an application to be rescored early.
2) The application recommendation. This is an entry in your application on airlineapps.com and can be written for you by anybody you invite to submit one. You, the applicant, submit the email address of the individual writing the recc for you. That person receives an automated invitation from airline apps and writes about you. This recommendation DOES NOT trigger any application review, but is part of your application both for scoring purposes and during your interview. This is the place that battalion commanders and such can write about your focus on safety, outstanding leadership and aversion to kryptonite.
Hope this helps.
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Thank you for your response clearing my doubts, I appreciate the time taken to respond!
01-01-2019, 02:27 PM
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A new hire on their first day can submit a recommendation. There are no requirements other than being a Delta pilot.
01-01-2019, 02:29 PM
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Any pilot, to include someone sitting in INDOC, can send the score-triggering internal rec. Theoretically, who the pilot is isn't relevant and doesn't add to nor detracts from your application. It just gets you pulled and scored.
01-01-2019, 02:55 PM
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Thank you all for your help clearing out this doubts. I understand how it works now.
Also does job fairs add any good? I’ve been looking into future job fairs, I’ve heard it also helps to be known amongst recruiters. I know I’ve not met DAL hiring minimums yet but since I’m committed to accomplish my mission, I can give it a shot if it is accesible to general public and start to get known around the community?
Also does job fairs add any good? I’ve been looking into future job fairs, I’ve heard it also helps to be known amongst recruiters. I know I’ve not met DAL hiring minimums yet but since I’m committed to accomplish my mission, I can give it a shot if it is accesible to general public and start to get known around the community?
01-01-2019, 02:59 PM
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Thank you all for your help clearing out this doubts. I understand how it works now.
Also does job fairs add any good? I’ve been looking into future job fairs, I’ve heard it also helps to be known amongst recruiters. I know I’ve not met DAL hiring minimums yet but since I’m committed to accomplish my mission, I can give it a shot if it is accesible to general public and start to get known around the community?
Also does job fairs add any good? I’ve been looking into future job fairs, I’ve heard it also helps to be known amongst recruiters. I know I’ve not met DAL hiring minimums yet but since I’m committed to accomplish my mission, I can give it a shot if it is accesible to general public and start to get known around the community?
Unless I’m not up to speed, Delta stopped going to job fairs a year or two ago. We host our own “expo” at our museum once maybe twice a year. As of now I haven’t heard when the next one will be.
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