Any Former Southwest, now Happy Delta Pilots?
#111
It's gotta be a hard decision. Under the conditions you've listed, living in Atlanta and don't want to fly wide bodies, I'd probably stay at SWA. For me, having a more conservative leaning especially when it comes to my job, I'd probably keep the bird in the hand and the junior guys below me.
Denny
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#112
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It's gotta be a hard decision. Under the conditions you've listed, living in Atlanta and don't want to fly wide bodies, I'd probably stay at SWA. For me, having a more conservative leaning especially when it comes to my job, I'd probably keep the bird in the hand and the junior guys below me.
One thing to consider is the base itself though. ATL will always be a large base for DL as long as DL exists. SWA OTOH it may not be. How many crews are based there right now? How many were based at the SW/AT peak? How many SWA cities have a similar crew/plane overnight presence where they don't have a base there?
If the OP stated at SWA almost completely for ATL and it went away, or shrunk significantly, would that leave the OP regretting the decision?
A grand or so junior to you isn't anything to sneeze at. That's important. But you'll get that at DL pretty much every year or two, black swans not withstanding.
Even if the OP doesn't want to do international, not only is it very nice to have the option to try, but the fact that its there lures lots of senior pilots to it and out of the way of the domestic proletariat, force multiplying one's relative seniority. A single fleet narrow body only smaller base operation like SWA has in ATL will be much more stovepiped with no other options other than base changes into only slightly different situations.
IMO by far the most vital puzzle piece in all this for the OP in making this decision will be wether or not there will be regret and angst over a 1-2 year pay/QOL hit coupled with the psychology of starting over into a temporarily negative situation compared to today's. If you aren't completely and enthusiastically OK with that, even for long term gain, then maybe you don't want to put yourself through it. If you are OK with it and are more of a medium to long term thinker, then making the move is probably the better of the two very good choices.
#114
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It's gotta be a hard decision. Under the conditions you've listed, living in Atlanta and don't want to fly wide bodies, I'd probably stay at SWA. For me, having a more conservative leaning especially when it comes to my job, I'd probably keep the bird in the hand and the junior guys below me.
Denny
Denny
#115
Gloopys argument about the size of SWA's base in ATL vs Delta's is a valid argument for going with Delta. I don't know what the chances are of SWA closing the base. Essentially that's the dilemma. Can he move up in a narrow body acft in Atlanta quicker if he stays at SWA or comes to Delta? That's something he's gonna have to figure out.
Denny
#116
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He said he didn't want/care to fly widebodies.
Gloopys argument about the size of SWA's base in ATL vs Delta's is a valid argument for going with Delta. I don't know what the chances are of SWA closing the base. Essentially that's the dilemma. Can he move up in a narrow body acft in Atlanta quicker if he stays at SWA or comes to Delta? That's something he's gonna have to figure out.
Denny
Gloopys argument about the size of SWA's base in ATL vs Delta's is a valid argument for going with Delta. I don't know what the chances are of SWA closing the base. Essentially that's the dilemma. Can he move up in a narrow body acft in Atlanta quicker if he stays at SWA or comes to Delta? That's something he's gonna have to figure out.
Denny
#117
Can any former SWA pilots here at Delta give me some insight? I have a little bit of “Stockholm Syndrome” jumping ship. I have a few questions about, Delta Training, PBS vs Line Bidding, QOL, and general questions. Reserve rules and scheduling is what also peaked my interest. Things at SWA have changed a lot for the better since most have switched. I get 17-19 days off with tons of flexibility as a 2 yr FO. I have never been a grass is greener and both have pros and cons. Its a huge financial loss already and I just need to ease the nerves with some learning of the many things that I don’t know. I realize this is a 1st world problem. Any kind of insight on the transition or PM to me would greatly be appreciated.
#118
Nothing beats living local and ATL is the ultimate local for DAL. I've moved to a new base twice in my career because it opens up so much schedule potential and I was not a good commuter. It just added too much stress to my life and I gave up a day off each trip. If ATL is where you want to be, DAL is a no brainer. If you think SWA will keep the base and the relative size, you know your progression. DAL is so large and hiring indefinitely that the seniority hit is likely nil in 6-12 months.
#119
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Simply out of curiosity.
Is DLA just allocating a new F/O to a fleet (aircraft type) or are you being asked for your preferences?
Same with a base, are you allowed to choose a base?
And if yes, at what point of the hiring process is this happening? At what point are you being asked?
Is DLA just allocating a new F/O to a fleet (aircraft type) or are you being asked for your preferences?
Same with a base, are you allowed to choose a base?
And if yes, at what point of the hiring process is this happening? At what point are you being asked?
#120
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Simply out of curiosity.
Is DLA just allocating a new F/O to a fleet (aircraft type) or are you being asked for your preferences?
Same with a base, are you allowed to choose a base?
And if yes, at what point of the hiring process is this happening? At what point are you being asked?
Is DLA just allocating a new F/O to a fleet (aircraft type) or are you being asked for your preferences?
Same with a base, are you allowed to choose a base?
And if yes, at what point of the hiring process is this happening? At what point are you being asked?
This all transpires on the first day of indoc.
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