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Old 12-05-2018, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by GuardPolice
That logic cuts both ways. In the end, does the OP want some options or none?
The OP is happy in a 737...only wants domestic if he stays or goes to DL. Just don't care about international unless I am on vacation. Mid 40s, flown all over the world for 20yrs...just asking if some former SWA now DL guys mind if I ask them what they found out that when they transitioned over.
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Old 12-05-2018, 06:28 AM
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Sounds like SWA wasn’t your target job in the first place. I’ve also never seen hub-and-spoke flying here at WN, five legs of course, certainly never those legs!

I just started year 4 at WN. One thing I’m happy with is that I have 20% of the airline below me. If the impossible furloughs would happen, 2000 guys below me is comforting.

For the OP, best of luck. I had two class mates have DL offers and they chose to stay at WN. Nice to have the option open.
It wasn't, it was my number #3 and wow, being on the inside, makes me happy. DL was my first choice, but they were not prompt on the invites 2 years ago. I now have ~1100 below me in my time here.

I guess, I am seeing that there is a real fear of making a bad choice leaving the only airline that has never furloughed, and profitable every year of its existence.
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Old 12-05-2018, 07:34 AM
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Wasn’t my first choice either. (Or 5th or 6th...) and if I were 10 years younger I’d be shooting for Delta. That said, there’s value in having 1100 below you.

I had 1149 below me at another major on 9/11 and still ended up on the street.


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Old 12-05-2018, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by oldboyroy
It wasn't, it was my number #3 and wow, being on the inside, makes me happy. DL was my first choice, but they were not prompt on the invites 2 years ago. I now have ~1100 below me in my time here.

I guess, I am seeing that there is a real fear of making a bad choice leaving the only airline that has never furloughed, and profitable every year of its existence.
I'm a big Southwest fan, but I will say that living in base vs. commuting is always a no contest. For example, if you live in ATL, I would say you're much better off at Delta simply because ATL doesn't appear to be in our focus. That's not to say that it never will be, but ATL is home to Delta, so your opportunity to advance up the seniority list, chase upgrade or better seniority while never having to commute, is far better at Delta than it ever could be at Southwest.

All this talk of which plane is better or "shooting myself if I had to fly a 737 for the rest of my career" is all BS bravado. This doesn't even register on my GAS meter. What pegs my GAS meter are things like stability (balance sheet, scope and how much of the flying is outsourced), bases, pay scales, retirement, etc.


But don't worry... you'll know if you made the right career moves on your retirement flight. The journey there is the fun part.
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Old 12-05-2018, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by oldboyroy

I guess, I am seeing that there is a real fear of making a bad choice leaving the only airline that has never furloughed, and profitable every year of its existence.
IIRC, FedEx has never furloughed either.
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Old 12-05-2018, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
IIRC, FedEx has never furloughed either.
Who cares if a company has ever furloughed or not? It means absolutely nothing going forward. I know you didn’t say and probably didn’t mean that.
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Old 12-05-2018, 03:50 PM
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Who cares if a company has ever furloughed or not? It means absolutely nothing going forward. I know you didn’t say and probably didn’t mean that.
Exactly, Delta didn’t furlough for its first 70+ years of existence. In the 90s, pilots were saying the same thing until they did furlough.

I hope no one ever gets furloughed and the whole industry is run much leaner than in the past but a sharp Dropoff in pax and/or oil spike and/or crappy Mgmt moves will cause some pain none the less.

Even without getting furloughed, getting stranded on the bottom of a list for years without movement can cause some serious career indigestion. Many that just avoided a furlough had several years of displacement pain.
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Old 12-06-2018, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
Even without getting furloughed, getting stranded on the bottom of a list for years without movement can cause some serious career indigestion. Many that just avoided a furlough had several years of displacement pain.
While this is true (and I sat sideways for 5.5 years) it was 20 years ago. I get your point, but the indigestion is long over.
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Originally Posted by Roper92
Who cares if a company has ever furloughed or not? It means absolutely nothing going forward. I know you didn’t say and probably didn’t mean that.
I was simply trying to show that oldboyroy’s statement that SWA was the “only” airline that has never furloughed anyone, was incorrect.
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Old 12-07-2018, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Catflyer
I can speak first hand, left Swa after 2 1/2 yrs to Delta 2014, best move I every made and allot happier! Swapped from the backside of a wave to the breaking front of a wave! But got say to each there own and not easy starting over!

Very simple and one word,

““OPTIONS””

Delta you can fly turns all day long if you live in base, or fly one large 10-12 days and live any where! You can upgrade in 1-2 years to a NB or go to large WB, or go SR in NB and GS all month it the fact that you have a choice and you go back and forth during your carreer!

Hired right into WB, now on ever large WB for past two years.

Delta has enough “planned” retirement in next 8 years, that mean anyone hires now will be 1/2 up the company in time frame, and 2/3 in the next 12.

SWA is still a great company and great people! But Delta has a great culture too.

Please pm me and happy to tell the difference I have found.

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I PMd you. I would be very interested in talking. Thanks though it may be clear for some, it is still tough decision.
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