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Old 07-18-2018, 06:38 AM
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DARPA is actively working with the cargo carriers on a robot copilot. 2 years ago when I heard about it the projected timeline for that was 5-10 years. Not surprisingly they were having issues with the human to robot interaction. For some reason they can't get it to convincingly say "Great job, sir!", or "That was a funny joke, Captain! I haven't heard that one."

I've told my son he needs to be strong in computer programming and have that as a plan B.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/flight/news/a26532/darpa-robot-autopilot-737-landing/
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Old 07-18-2018, 06:53 AM
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DARPA is actively working with the cargo carriers on a robot copilot. 2 years ago when I heard about it the projected timeline for that was 5-10 years. Not surprisingly they were having issues with the human to robot interaction. For some reason they can't get it to convincingly say "Great job, sir!", or "That was a funny joke, Captain! I haven't heard that one."

I've told my son he needs to be strong in computer programming and have that as a plan B.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/fli...t-737-landing/
What I fail to see is how a robot like that manipulating the controls is any different than an autopilot system already in place. We already know that automation can fly and land the plane with incredible accuracy. Where the single pilot cockpit concept starts to break down in my mind is in judgement/decision making in dynamic, rapidly changing environments and of course in emergency/non-normal operations. Even with an autopilot flying the airplane two pilots can become task saturated very quickly. Another "pilot" assisting from a central command center on the ground is no match for another pair of experienced eyes in the cockpit helping to see and evaluate the situation as it is unfolding.
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Old 07-18-2018, 07:26 AM
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What I fail to see is how a robot like that manipulating the controls is any different than an autopilot system already in place. We already know that automation can fly and land the plane with incredible accuracy. Where the single pilot cockpit concept starts to break down in my mind is in judgement/decision making in dynamic, rapidly changing environments and of course in emergency/non-normal operations. Even with an autopilot flying the airplane two pilots can become task saturated very quickly. Another "pilot" assisting from a central command center on the ground is no match for another pair of experienced eyes in the cockpit helping to see and evaluate the situation as it is unfolding.
Based on that video I am comfortable sending that robot to CQ next week for me along with my ID. I think he can pull it off.
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Old 07-18-2018, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
What I fail to see is how a robot like that manipulating the controls is any different than an autopilot system already in place. We already know that automation can fly and land the plane with incredible accuracy. Where the single pilot cockpit concept starts to break down in my mind is in judgement/decision making in dynamic, rapidly changing environments and of course in emergency/non-normal operations. Even with an autopilot flying the airplane two pilots can become task saturated very quickly. Another "pilot" assisting from a central command center on the ground is no match for another pair of experienced eyes in the cockpit helping to see and evaluate the situation as it is unfolding.
There will always be two people controlling passenger jets. The question is what skill level, and licensing will be required with future automation. I don't think the six figure salaries will last till the end of a 30+ year career.

The time, skills, commitment, and capability to become a Delta pilot, could easily land you a 7 figure job in silicon valley. You can work from home after a period of time in a lot of cases.

Teach your kids linear algebra, and statistics as early as possible.
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Old 07-18-2018, 10:20 AM
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There will always be two people controlling passenger jets. The question is what skill level, and licensing will be required with future automation. I don't think the six figure salaries will last till the end of a 30+ year career.

The time, skills, commitment, and capability to become a Delta pilot, could easily land you a 7 figure job in silicon valley. You can work from home after a period of time in a lot of cases.

Teach your kids linear algebra, and statistics as early as possible.
Sounds like fun!
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It's very frustrating to see it get easier and easier for those with 0 experience to get a legacy job, and harder for those with actual professional flying experience.

This is a zero sum game; every spot in a new hire class that's taken by someone from this type of program is a spot that does not go to someone already established in the career.

I get the need to establish a definitive career path, but still.
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Originally Posted by Pushta Ailsouth
...but one of the weakest flight programs.
Really? The one with the flight school that ranks in the top five nationally almost every year, wins NIFA regionals almost every year and National Flight Team titles? You mean that's school?
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Originally Posted by Klondike Bear
Only one of those schools has a good football program. Seems like an easy choice.
Only 3 of them have football programs.
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Originally Posted by Imapilot2
Really? The one with the flight school that ranks in the top five nationally almost every year, wins NIFA regionals almost every year and National Flight Team titles? You mean that's school?
Uh oh... we got an Auburn grad over here.
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Really? The one with the flight school that ranks in the top five nationally almost every year, wins NIFA regionals almost every year and National Flight Team titles? You mean that's school?
Oh man flight team competitions: the true metric of success
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