Pushta Ailsouth

Steve Dickson has said that a financial incentive piece will become part of this.

42jeff

after i replied i started wondering if that was what you meant

kevbo

No, debt jubilees are reserved for very rich folks only. Common folk owe until death. They are more likely enact laws to seize assets after he dies.

hvydvr

Had a long conversation with one of my kids about flying. We live in south Texas. I told him to learn business and how to fix air conditioners. I told him I’d fly his King Air as my retirement job.

There is simply no way I’d recommend this to my kids. If it was their dream, that’s a
different matter. As a job of choice, not so much.

PassportPlump

Might want to rethink your free advice. One of my good friends owns a HVAC company. He barely makes six figures. Most of his employees make around $50,000 and work a hell of a lot harder than I (we) do.

Oh, I also coach his sons baseball team two nights a week (he is usually working). While typing this post I googled HVAC salaries: https://hvactraining101.com/earning-a-good-living-as-an-hvac-tech/

They say about $43-$52k on average. Might want to also tell your kids the story of Chicken Little and let them decide for themselves.

Not picking on you, but this isn’t as bad as some people make it seem. Especially in our current times. I realize ebb and flow will take place, but this is far from the worst job in the world.

bentwookie

You might be surprised. The hygienist who was cleaning my teeth at the dentist the other day told me her husband had just signed up at the local ATP flight school. He was taking on massive loans to go from zero to airline pilot ASAP and was told in his initial tour "not to worry about getting a bachelors degree because Delta would be tossing that requirement as soon as the shortage hit".

They've (higher ed institutions) successfully changed the paradigm around school debt. Students are going into massive amounts of debt for degrees that are worth far less than a shot at a major airline...it's just accepted/tolerated these days. My alma mater sends me alumni magazines advertising luxury student housing, and other ridiculous amenities. Meanwhile, statistics about graduates with various degrees, who are actually working in their field are impossible to find.

bentwookie

I'm in my 30's. I'm planning and saving for retirement as if my position at Delta will be obsolete well before I hit 65.

CmiIIx

I wish that was the case. I would have loved to do this but went the tech school route and became an A&P/IA thinking it would be a ‘plus’ for a flying career. It did enable me to get my own plane without going into debt and an awesome job at DL so I’m thankful for that!

GuardPolice

Yes, I know. The details are being worked out but it will not be money out of Delta's pocket.

Myfingershurt

However if the US says no to foreign carriers operating pilotless airplanes in/out of the country then those foreign carriers will never even try it.