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Old 07-18-2018, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Delta2heavy
In regards to profit sharing. I am a little worried. Profit sharing is amazing, I love it and I hope we get it forever. But eventually, it’s going to come down, heck there may be a year within the next 5-10 years were we get zero. I am worried that we as a group have come to rely on it a little bit as part of our pay. That’s why I believe that contract 2019 has to be a really good contract with good work rules, benefits, and good pay, a solid foundation to hopefully continue descent profit sharing checks but be ok if they aren’t as good
I don’t want to have to work harder than I want to just receive a larger profit sharing check in feb. I would rather work less, make more money all year round, spend more time with family, and then celebrate with a little extra in feb.
If/when that happens it comes back automatically when we do make a profit in the following years. No negotiations, no waiting for sect. 6, no ability for management to say no. Only we could screw this up for ourselves, like we almost did.
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Old 07-18-2018, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
If/when that happens it comes back automatically when we do make a profit in the following years. No negotiations, no waiting for sect. 6, no ability for management to say no. Only we could screw this up for ourselves, like we almost did.
Bingo! FWIW I think our PS is off the table but who knows. If we attempt to trade any of it we are idiots.

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Originally Posted by Ray Red
It is my understanding that it doesn't matter what the non-union groups use for a profit sharing formula. The could get zero profit sharing or be on the same formula as us and our PS check would be the same.
It doesn’t, but when the company says they have put 19 percent more away this year than last year, that amount includes their money too. They are getting a lot more this year. It is however not at our expense.
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Old 07-18-2018, 10:07 AM
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Bingo! FWIW I think our PS is off the table but who knows. If we attempt to trade any of it we are idiots.

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Other then a select few, any change to profit sharing is a non starter. Anyone that understands the industry knows this. Advocating any change in the company’s favor is self serving and/or moronic.
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Old 07-18-2018, 10:46 AM
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To summarize if the economy tanks profit sharing will go down. Maybe even to zero but unlike regular pay rates it will automatically spring back up if Delta makes money.

Any reduction in profit sharing needs to be an automatic no!
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Old 07-18-2018, 11:32 AM
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I still have a picture of that and the world infamous Captain that I was flying with who taught me everything I know! 👌🏻

Suuuuuperrrr. I hope you got rid of that other picture you showed me when we flew together.
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Old 07-18-2018, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Delta2heavy
In regards to profit sharing. I am a little worried. Profit sharing is amazing, I love it and I hope we get it forever. But eventually, it’s going to come down, heck there may be a year within the next 5-10 years were we get zero. I am worried that we as a group have come to rely on it a little bit as part of our pay. That’s why I believe that contract 2019 has to be a really good contract with good work rules, benefits, and good pay, a solid foundation to hopefully continue descent profit sharing checks but be ok if they aren’t as good
I don’t want to have to work harder than I want to just receive a larger profit sharing check in feb. I would rather work less, make more money all year round, spend more time with family, and then celebrate with a little extra in feb.
Trading profit sharing for pay rates is a non starter.
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Old 07-18-2018, 02:01 PM
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Not saying profit sharing should go away I’m just saying we need a really solid contract
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Old 07-18-2018, 02:44 PM
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So about this AE?
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