Gspeed

Yup, they can keep all the new 4 and 5-leg days. I’m finally bugging out on this bid.

ppping

So how about when they don’t and have some airbus pilots deliver the 350?

sailingfun

It was one flight and a grievance has been filed. The proper way to handle it would have been to work out a solution in advance that benefited both sides. We gained nothing by having pilots training delayed and the company will certainly lose the grievance. We have had two opportunities in the last year to make contractual improvements and work solutions that benefit both sides. We failed to use that leverage.
The company certainly erred in their A350 training plan and the end result delayed pilot training. Telling the company to go F yourself it’s all your fault is not the smart solution. The same thing applied in the fall when marketing increased MD88 flying. We could have made gains and not disrupted pilots scheduled training but picked another option that led to 90 pilots have training cancelled.
Both problems were company generated however that does not mean we should not participate in solutions that are in everyone’s best interest. I get that the MEC wanted the company to park 350’s. I just don’t understand why.
In the end the direction the MEC is going has no effect on me. It will be ugly for the junior people however. Former North pilots constantly tell me what a horrid place it was to work. We seem to be headed in that direction. It will be interesting to see how pilots feel when the company adopts a zero tolerance to pilot errors.

TED74

The MEC wanted the company to staff the 350 properly. They want (And I believe, will get) the same thing for subsequent deliveries...as do I. I fully support the MEC as they seek 100% contract compliance and not just look for mutually-beneficial ways to dig the company out of frequent and intentional contract violations.

sailingfun

I assume you will not complain when the company takes the same position toward pilots.

BigHitterLlama

Sailing - what’s everyone getting all willy-nilly about? It seems like you believe there are a lot of everyday contract violations by we pilots.

tunes

No I won't. If I willfully violate the pwa I expect to be punished for it.


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sailingfun

Actually there are lots of everyday problems. Pilots are constantly late for sign in is a simple example. Now we simply call and let them know we will make departure, end of story. Pilots no show trips, again if it’s a honest mistake no real problem. Pilots commit FAR violations, get arrested, have alcohol issues ect.. All are handled overall very fairly.
There are also deeper issues. Let’s say as a example the company is considering merging 9E into the mainline. They could if they want come to the union in advance and allow us to get a prenuptial in place for the seniority list. They could state without a agreement in place no merger. Gives DALPA tremendous leverage. On the other hand they could simply inform DALPA that at noon that day they are announcing a merger and to please start the ALPA merger policy so the arbitration can begin as soon as possible.

tunes

A lot of the top stuff is FOM not PWA right? And bad example for a merger with 9E, thats a simple staple, any other non regional carrier and you have a point.

sailingfun

It’s far from a simple staple once it comes under ALPA merger policy. I can assure you they will not agree to a staple unless it’s a prenup. After that it’s going to arbitration. Do you feel lucky? He might order a staple or come up with any other method including all their CA’s stapled after our last CA position.