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07-15-2018, 02:49 PM
#371
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The Company cannot get away from churn when you close a top paying 777 category as well as all the M88 in MSP and a significant amount in ATL. It is unavoidable. They can mitigate it by carrying a bit heavy in, say, the A330...
for a year. There are plenty of retirements in the next year from that category. But they can really only do that on the Captain side. Every other displacement listed is going to cause a cascading effect unless they decide to be fat in some categories. We will see next week...
Dennt
for a year. There are plenty of retirements in the next year from that category. But they can really only do that on the Captain side. Every other displacement listed is going to cause a cascading effect unless they decide to be fat in some categories. We will see next week...Dennt
07-15-2018, 02:51 PM
#372
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Really?
That is hilarious!
07-15-2018, 02:55 PM
#374
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I can see them displacing for an aircraft that’s going away.
I’m not sure I see the wisdom in any other category (777.) Just carry that fat. It’s a front-end/back-end DH airplane anyway.
I’m not sure I see the wisdom in any other category (777.) Just carry that fat. It’s a front-end/back-end DH airplane anyway.
07-15-2018, 03:06 PM
#376
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I feel for Crew Resources. The pilot group is more unbalanced than overstaffed. Smart to pump the brakes on hiring to get fleet staffing shifted to the right places. The modernization of the fleet combined with system wide redeployment of the entire airline will make things interesting for the next couple years.
07-15-2018, 03:18 PM
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Monthly bids work great when there are no displacements and/or category closures. Almost all displacements are heading to Virginia Ave for a month and coming out with no Freeze. It's more efficient to get displacements done as big a chunk as you can.
I feel for Crew Resources. The pilot group is more unbalanced than overstaffed. Smart to pump the brakes on hiring to get fleet staffing shifted to the right places. The modernization of the fleet combined with system wide redeployment of the entire airline will make things interesting for the next couple years.
I feel for Crew Resources. The pilot group is more unbalanced than overstaffed. Smart to pump the brakes on hiring to get fleet staffing shifted to the right places. The modernization of the fleet combined with system wide redeployment of the entire airline will make things interesting for the next couple years.
They have a hard job no doubt about it but a lot of people don’t bid because they are afraid of getting something they don’t want when there is one Bid a year. Then the ambitious junior people step in and get the spots
This is the way the game is being played so the people who get awarded something shouldn’t be punished
07-15-2018, 03:23 PM
#378
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Monthly bids work great when there are no displacements and/or category closures. Almost all displacements are heading to Virginia Ave for a month and coming out with no Freeze. It's more efficient to get displacements done as big a chunk as you can.
I feel for Crew Resources. The pilot group is more unbalanced than overstaffed. Smart to pump the brakes on hiring to get fleet staffing shifted to the right places. The modernization of the fleet combined with system wide redeployment of the entire airline will make things interesting for the next couple years.
I feel for Crew Resources. The pilot group is more unbalanced than overstaffed. Smart to pump the brakes on hiring to get fleet staffing shifted to the right places. The modernization of the fleet combined with system wide redeployment of the entire airline will make things interesting for the next couple years.
07-15-2018, 03:36 PM
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Closing a category creates a huge amount of training churn. You bump pilots to a new category with no freeze, so they can move again on the next bid if they don't like where they landed. Add to that any secondary displacements and potential for subsequent reinstatements and it becomes a huge training load. I would say the company is smart enough to keep overages in growing categories, but the 350B displacements on the last bid easily refute that argument. I suspect we will see them accept some overages for reduction in secondary displacements on this bid, with a cleanup bid in the fall. If we hadn't killed the SILs, the company could have justified more overages to reduce displacements, but that is the topic for another thread.
07-15-2018, 04:07 PM
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So let's suppose the company pulls a do-over. Could they just advertise 200 vacancies in all categories (other than the ones they want to surplus/close) and get the same effect as the contractually questionable fat-staffed categories people have discussed here? Since they're not required to fill vacancies they could do whatever they want with regard to category sizing AND put a stick in the pilot group's eye since nobody would have any idea what was really available.
Also of note, they can only have 1 365-day AE per year and this is it. Can't put the poop back in the goose on that one and I can't see the MEC agreeing to an LOA to give them another. Wonder how that little factoid factors into the equation.
Also of note, they can only have 1 365-day AE per year and this is it. Can't put the poop back in the goose on that one and I can't see the MEC agreeing to an LOA to give them another. Wonder how that little factoid factors into the equation.
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