Originally Posted by JamesBond

The project pilot issue on the C series is a nothing burger. I'll betcha they all hold it on the bid.

Originally Posted by FL370esq

I think some of "the chosen" are pretty junior. Not sure if they will make the 1st 70. Overall preferences seem to indicate it is getting more senior by the day.

Originally Posted by FL370esq

I think some of "the chosen" are pretty junior. Not sure if they will make the 1st 70. Overall preferences seem to indicate it is getting more senior by the day.

Originally Posted by FL370esq

It's not a status quo issue because 1) we are not in RLA Section 6 negotitations; and 2) there is no status quo with regard to the CSeries/A220 category because the category has yet to exist.

The "project pilot" concept was also done on the A350. Would you agree that you need LCAs to get the category up and running by providing OE to pilots on the line? If you wait to identify LCAs until after the initial AE bid award, by the time they are trained and have at least some experience and familiarity, a good chunk of the conversion window has passed before training can begin for normal line swine. Further, what if only a few of those awarded elect to become LCAs? This is just the cost of getting a new aircraft up and running and it is way more "expensive" because, as said previously, the Company will often be buying rotations from both the Capt and the FO to accomplish OE.

Originally Posted by Scoop

Good points all. I was taking the earlier comments as the company was trying to circumnavigate the LCA buddy bidding. If this is just a temporary situation then it is no big deal.


Scoop

Originally Posted by JamesBond

I highly doubt the LCP buddy bidding thing is anywhere near the company's radar.

Originally Posted by FL370esq

I think some of "the chosen" are pretty junior. Not sure if they will make the 1st 70. Overall preferences seem to indicate it is getting more senior by the day.

Originally Posted by DALMD88FO

Would anyone have an idea about the seniority of the LCA's in NYC? I know the company can, and does, select LCA's out of seniority on new fleets. If some of these guys don't make the 70 cut will they increase the size of the category to accommodate these guys. Say for ease of math that none of the LCA's make the first 70 slots in NYC. Now say there are 10 LCA's, again for ease of math. So will the company fill the 70 and have a total of 80 positions filled on this bid or will they fill only 60 and fill the other positions with the 10. I'm doing the no lower than on my bid and it makes a difference.

Originally Posted by Broncos

FYI, someone posted on Facebook that it's not going to work this way for Senior C10B's this time around. All the LCA's are designated as "project" pilots, or something like that. As such, they will not be assigned to a category, and will not bid. Training will just buy trips for them to fly. So yes, while B's will be bought off their seat for OE training, there is no way for Senior B's to bid for "Award Pairing if LCA..." because there aren't any LCA's bidding. In other words, a bunch of random newhires are going to get that lucky phone call telling them to stay home instead of the Senior B's who deserve them.