03 July AE
07-03-2018, 04:45 AM
#121
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75+ oil and to much capacity coming into the domestic US system. SWA just suspended all hiring and American is rumored to be putting the brakes on. I am actually surprised this bid was as positive as it is. I expected far less given that the industry appears to be flat at best.
07-03-2018, 05:00 AM
#122
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Posts: 226
Dear crew resources,
Please refrain from posting any more newsletters and updates with fancy words that pilots can’t understand as they are nothing more than fake news.
Also please save the company money and don’t do any more base visits
Love,
Delta2heavy
Please refrain from posting any more newsletters and updates with fancy words that pilots can’t understand as they are nothing more than fake news.
Also please save the company money and don’t do any more base visits
Love,
Delta2heavy
07-03-2018, 05:53 AM
#123
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 4,994
Exactly! I don't know if it's intentional... and it doesn't matter anyway. If we don't get reliable and complete information, we can't count on any of it.
07-03-2018, 06:01 AM
#124
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Position: DAL 330
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I respect your opinion, in all your posts 80...
That would be great outcome for the A's....what about the mid level 88B's??? This AE is a disaster for them.
Regarding the 90's....biggest POS ever designed. It's coffin cornered at 30k on a good day. Wish they would retire those totally and keep some 88's around. Unfortunately not the range of the 90s
That would be great outcome for the A's....what about the mid level 88B's??? This AE is a disaster for them.
Regarding the 90's....biggest POS ever designed. It's coffin cornered at 30k on a good day. Wish they would retire those totally and keep some 88's around. Unfortunately not the range of the 90s
C’mon man, I admit it is a little disappointing (as published) time will tell, but “a disaster?” You do realize many of us went backwards for years and many were furloughed, so disaster might not be the best description.
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07-03-2018, 06:08 AM
#125
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07-03-2018, 06:14 AM
#126
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So what are we suggesting here? Is it that if marketing> crew resources can't come up with a guaranteed plan then they should put out NO information?
I have another solution. If you think you can't trust the information, then don't read it. But please put out the info and let those pilots with personal "filters" on their information the opportunity and insight to get the best picture possible at any given time.
Unless you think they purposely lie to us just to see the knash cluster that developes? If your opinion is that low, then I suggest a divorce from the Delta family.
A more succinct question. What logical explanation can you contrive wherein Delta intentionally or unintentionally puts out bad info?
I have another solution. If you think you can't trust the information, then don't read it. But please put out the info and let those pilots with personal "filters" on their information the opportunity and insight to get the best picture possible at any given time.
Unless you think they purposely lie to us just to see the knash cluster that developes? If your opinion is that low, then I suggest a divorce from the Delta family.
A more succinct question. What logical explanation can you contrive wherein Delta intentionally or unintentionally puts out bad info?
07-03-2018, 06:19 AM
#127
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Joined APC: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,535
So what are we suggesting here? Is it that if marketing> crew resources can't come up with a guaranteed plan then they should put out NO information?
I have another solution. If you think you can't trust the information, then don't read it. But please put out the info and let those pilots with personal "filters" on their information the opportunity and insight to get the best picture possible at any given time.
Unless you think they purposely lie to us just to see the knash cluster that developes? If your opinion is that low, then I suggest a divorce from the Delta family.
A more succinct question. What logical explanation can you contrive wherein Delta intentionally or unintentionally puts out bad info?
I have another solution. If you think you can't trust the information, then don't read it. But please put out the info and let those pilots with personal "filters" on their information the opportunity and insight to get the best picture possible at any given time.
Unless you think they purposely lie to us just to see the knash cluster that developes? If your opinion is that low, then I suggest a divorce from the Delta family.
A more succinct question. What logical explanation can you contrive wherein Delta intentionally or unintentionally puts out bad info?
Unintentionally all the time.... We are making money in spite of ourselves at this point
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07-03-2018, 06:30 AM
#128
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Joined APC: Sep 2010
Posts: 159
So what are we suggesting here? Is it that if marketing> crew resources can't come up with a guaranteed plan then they should put out NO information?
I have another solution. If you think you can't trust the information, then don't read it. But please put out the info and let those pilots with personal "filters" on their information the opportunity and insight to get the best picture possible at any given time.
Unless you think they purposely lie to us just to see the knash cluster that developes? If your opinion is that low, then I suggest a divorce from the Delta family.
A more succinct question. What logical explanation can you contrive wherein Delta intentionally or unintentionally puts out bad info?
I have another solution. If you think you can't trust the information, then don't read it. But please put out the info and let those pilots with personal "filters" on their information the opportunity and insight to get the best picture possible at any given time.
Unless you think they purposely lie to us just to see the knash cluster that developes? If your opinion is that low, then I suggest a divorce from the Delta family.
A more succinct question. What logical explanation can you contrive wherein Delta intentionally or unintentionally puts out bad info?
07-03-2018, 06:33 AM
#129
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Position: NYC 7ERA
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Dumb AE question.
New Guy (7 months on property), NYC 7ER
With my seat lock, I can only put other ER bases on there, right?
Now for the displacement bid, can I put anything I have a prayer of holding there, if I get MD'd off the ER? Doesn't have to be things with a vacancy at the moment, say if I get displaced off the ER, I could say to 73N ATL provided someone junior to me is holding it?
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New Guy (7 months on property), NYC 7ER
With my seat lock, I can only put other ER bases on there, right?
Now for the displacement bid, can I put anything I have a prayer of holding there, if I get MD'd off the ER? Doesn't have to be things with a vacancy at the moment, say if I get displaced off the ER, I could say to 73N ATL provided someone junior to me is holding it?
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07-03-2018, 06:38 AM
#130
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Dumb AE question.
New Guy (7 months on property), NYC 7ER
With my seat lock, I can only put other ER bases on there, right?
Now for the displacement bid, can I put anything I have a prayer of holding there, if I get MD'd off the ER? Doesn't have to be things with a vacancy at the moment, say if I get displaced off the ER, I could say to 73N ATL provided someone junior to me is holding it?
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New Guy (7 months on property), NYC 7ER
With my seat lock, I can only put other ER bases on there, right?
Now for the displacement bid, can I put anything I have a prayer of holding there, if I get MD'd off the ER? Doesn't have to be things with a vacancy at the moment, say if I get displaced off the ER, I could say to 73N ATL provided someone junior to me is holding it?
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And as a general rule your AE and VD bids should be identical.
With an MD, you can displace to any seat someone junior to you is in — with no freeze.
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