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DenVa 01-08-2021 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 3179167)
I was getting a bit concerned about TSLA valuation as well. Rather than paring my position I went with selling CC against a portion of it. I'll keep rolling them ITM, possibly out and up or maybe just out.

On a side note, Elon Musk is the richest person in the world and the TLSA shorts have lost close to 100 billion so far this year. Ouch...

that’s the problem with shorting because of valuation. You can get crushed while you wait.

Trip7 01-08-2021 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by DenVa (Post 3179175)
that’s the problem with shorting because of valuation. You can get crushed while you wait.

Correct. The market can stay irrational longer than most folks can remain solvent. Dr. Burry is worth over $100 mil so he can cover Margin Calls for quite a while.

This is just my personal prediction so YMMV, but between TSLA, Bitcoin, and S&P valuations at near all time highs, I think a reckoning is coming and it will end in Tears for many. When Meek Mill is talking about stocks the top has got to be nearhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...91d87607d3.jpg

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JamesBond 01-08-2021 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 3179167)
I was getting a bit concerned about TSLA valuation as well. Rather than paring my position I went with selling CC against a portion of it. I'll keep rolling them ITM, possibly out and up or maybe just out.

On a side note, Elon Musk is the richest person in the world and the TLSA shorts have lost close to 100 billion so far this year. Ouch...

I sold a bunch of naked puts at 700 and was on edge for a couple of days. Drinking scotch tonight.

SabreDriver 01-08-2021 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by DenVa (Post 3179175)
that’s the problem with shorting because of valuation. You can get crushed while you wait.


The movie, “The Big Short” comes to mind, concerning valuations.


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TransWorld 01-08-2021 08:16 PM

My shorts keep getting smaller and smaller, as do my pants. Maybe I need to exercise more.

Gunfighter 01-08-2021 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by SabreDriver (Post 3179187)
The movie, “The Big Short” comes to mind, concerning valuations.

​​​​​​It's one of my all time favorite movies.

tripled 01-08-2021 10:24 PM

Mine too.

can anyone educate a layman on bitcoin and crypto currency? They seem to be more of an indicator of economic stability rather than of actual monetary valuations. BItcoin jumped from 29k to over 40k just this week alone. 25%!!! Similar growth for RIOT and MARA. WHATS GOING ON HERE?

I recall the scene from Big Short where they’re all shouting ‘no no no’ but can’t put my finger on why. Any wisdom from the crowd?

https://youtu.be/wJNJrBvA_1o

tunes 01-09-2021 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by tripled (Post 3179272)
Mine too.

can anyone educate a layman on bitcoin and crypto currency? They seem to be more of an indicator of economic stability rather than of actual monetary valuations. BItcoin jumped from 29k to over 40k just this week alone. 25%!!! Similar growth for RIOT and MARA. WHATS GOING ON HERE?

I recall the scene from Big Short where they’re all shouting ‘no no no’ but can’t put my finger on why. Any wisdom from the crowd?

https://youtu.be/wJNJrBvA_1o

institutions are finally adopting it. I wish i had bought more than i did but hindsight is always 20 20 right? My average coin cost is $929.

NuGuy 01-09-2021 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by SabreDriver (Post 3179187)
The movie, “The Big Short” comes to mind, concerning valuations.


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Yes, there was market "exuberance" over mortgage based securities, but the collapse of the real estate markets due to defaults on sub-prime lending wasn't what torched the world's economy. Yes, it was bad, but alone would have been just "Savings and Loan Crisis" bad.

Rather, it was the all the derivative products (the bets on bets, and bets on bets on bets), that truly magnified the result exponentially, and sank the whole world.

When I see crap being hawked on late night TV (gold, real estate, etc), that's my indication to exit the pattern.

Gunfighter 01-09-2021 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 3179415)
Yes, there was market "exuberance" over mortgage based securities, but the collapse of the real estate markets due to defaults on sub-prime lending wasn't what torched the world's economy. Yes, it was bad, but alone would have been just "Savings and Loan Crisis" bad.

Rather, it was the all the derivative products (the bets on bets, and bets on bets on bets), that truly magnified the result exponentially, and sank the whole world.

When I see crap being hawked on late night TV (gold, real estate, etc), that's my indication to exit the pattern.


Buy businesses (or shares of a business) and real estate that are a good value. Sell derivatives like options when they are overvalued. Problem solved.


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