ALPA dues
03-24-2018, 07:19 AM
#111
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The ones making six figures have big jobs like office manager and have lots of seniority. That is the going rate for those jobs.
Exactly how could management have done that successfully?
03-24-2018, 08:38 AM
#112
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That right there tells me all I needed to know. We all know DAL did everything in their power to block all DPA organization activities.
Still no answer to the question of holding an ALPA position?
Still no answer to the question of holding an ALPA position?
03-24-2018, 09:27 AM
#114
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How could you not know this?
DPA was denied access to Vfiles, access to/restrictions in pilot lounges, Chief Pilots patrolling lounges to make sure DPA reps were not conducting organizational activities, making a big stink about lanyards, the list goes on. They made it as hard as they could on the DPA reps as they tried to gain traction.
Still no answer to the question?
DPA was denied access to Vfiles, access to/restrictions in pilot lounges, Chief Pilots patrolling lounges to make sure DPA reps were not conducting organizational activities, making a big stink about lanyards, the list goes on. They made it as hard as they could on the DPA reps as they tried to gain traction.Still no answer to the question?
03-24-2018, 09:52 AM
#115
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How could you not know this? DPA was denied access to Vfiles, access to/restrictions in pilot lounges, Chief Pilots patrolling lounges to make sure DPA reps were not conducting organizational activities, making a big stink about lanyards, the list goes on. They made it as hard as they could on the DPA reps as they tried to gain traction.
DPA was denied access to Vfiles, access to/restrictions in pilot lounges, Chief Pilots patrolling lounges to make sure DPA reps were not conducting organizational activities, making a big stink about lanyards, the list goes on. They made it as hard as they could on the DPA reps as they tried to gain traction.From the outside looking in DPA was as much a joke as the Pearl Group at United.
03-24-2018, 12:05 PM
#116
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I don’t see how this is possible considering for most of the last 15 years SWA and UPS pilots had much better contracts than most ALPA pilots. FedEx is the only ALPA group that did as well as UPS’s IPA.
03-24-2018, 12:30 PM
#117
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The Pinnacle MEC used millions of dollars of Delta pilot's money for our bankruptcy. ALPA National scoped itself to 9E's 76 seat jets, violating the Delta scope contract via the bridge agreement. The resulting contract was horrendous, everybody quit, so Delta had to give us an industry leading one.
03-24-2018, 01:01 PM
#118
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All three companies have had consistently positive cash flow and no bankruptcies. When the industry as a whole is profitable the ALPA pilot groups push the envelope for everyone including the company unions while in the bad times it is pretty hard for these airlines (SWA, UPS & FDX) to ask for concessions when they are making money. Hopefully, with consolidation the big three will now enjoy the same bounty.
03-24-2018, 01:33 PM
#119
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All three companies have had consistently positive cash flow and no bankruptcies. When the industry as a whole is profitable the ALPA pilot groups push the envelope for everyone including the company unions while in the bad times it is pretty hard for these airlines (SWA, UPS & FDX) to ask for concessions when they are making money.
Louisville, KY (Wednesday, May 19, 2010) – For the first time in its
103 year history UPS (NYSE: UPS) will furloughed pilots. The first
fifty-four pilots were laid off on Sunday, May 23. This is the first
wave of a plan UPS announced in February to layoff at least 300 of its
airline pilots. The 2,800 UPS pilots, represented by the Independent
Pilots Association, had since April 2009, preserved these jobs through
voluntary cost cutting programs.
“At a time when the number one issue for most Americans is creating
jobs, UPS is creating unemployment,” said Captain Robert Thrush;
President of the Independent Pilots Association. Captain Thrush went
on to say, “What makes this furlough truly unfortunate is that our
pilots took it upon themselves to give-up pay and benefits to produce
$117 million in guaranteed savings for UPS, enough to keep these 300
pilots employed well into 2011.”
Under the Voluntary Jobs Protection Program UPS pilots were able to
generate cost savings for UPS by: taking reductions in flight pay
guarantees; taking unpaid leaves of absence; participating in job
sharing; taking military leave; contributing unused sick bank time;
and taking early retirement.
“This all came to a crashing halt on January 11 when UPS pulled a bait
and switch. They told us that they now needed $244 million in savings
through 2015, and that its preference was for ‘compulsory savings’ –
UPS speak for furloughs,” said Captain Thrush. He went on to say,
“While we were taken back by UPS almost doubling its original request
and tacking on an additional four years, our pilots didn’t flinch.
They were more than willing to step-up, extend and expand the
Voluntary Jobs Protection Program to cover UPS’s demands, and keep the
300 employed.”
On February 8, within days of UPS CEO Scott Davis declaring “looks
like this recession is finally over,” UPS told the IPA that it was
unwilling to continue with current voluntary savings programs, or
consider others; it began the furlough process, and issued a press
release.
“What I find the most galling are the disingenuous statements in the
UPS press release. They mockingly hold out hope that the furloughs
may be mitigated, averted, or eliminated; and shamefully attempt to
place blame on the pilots for somehow failing to act,” said Captain
Thrush. Who went on to say, “At a time when unions are being
excoriated, and blamed for a litany of economic ills it’s important to
remember that one union covered the cost to save 300 jobs – instead
UPS chose to create unemployment and add to local, county, state and federal unemployment and social services rolls.”
103 year history UPS (NYSE: UPS) will furloughed pilots. The first
fifty-four pilots were laid off on Sunday, May 23. This is the first
wave of a plan UPS announced in February to layoff at least 300 of its
airline pilots. The 2,800 UPS pilots, represented by the Independent
Pilots Association, had since April 2009, preserved these jobs through
voluntary cost cutting programs.
“At a time when the number one issue for most Americans is creating
jobs, UPS is creating unemployment,” said Captain Robert Thrush;
President of the Independent Pilots Association. Captain Thrush went
on to say, “What makes this furlough truly unfortunate is that our
pilots took it upon themselves to give-up pay and benefits to produce
$117 million in guaranteed savings for UPS, enough to keep these 300
pilots employed well into 2011.”
Under the Voluntary Jobs Protection Program UPS pilots were able to
generate cost savings for UPS by: taking reductions in flight pay
guarantees; taking unpaid leaves of absence; participating in job
sharing; taking military leave; contributing unused sick bank time;
and taking early retirement.
“This all came to a crashing halt on January 11 when UPS pulled a bait
and switch. They told us that they now needed $244 million in savings
through 2015, and that its preference was for ‘compulsory savings’ –
UPS speak for furloughs,” said Captain Thrush. He went on to say,
“While we were taken back by UPS almost doubling its original request
and tacking on an additional four years, our pilots didn’t flinch.
They were more than willing to step-up, extend and expand the
Voluntary Jobs Protection Program to cover UPS’s demands, and keep the
300 employed.”
On February 8, within days of UPS CEO Scott Davis declaring “looks
like this recession is finally over,” UPS told the IPA that it was
unwilling to continue with current voluntary savings programs, or
consider others; it began the furlough process, and issued a press
release.
“What I find the most galling are the disingenuous statements in the
UPS press release. They mockingly hold out hope that the furloughs
may be mitigated, averted, or eliminated; and shamefully attempt to
place blame on the pilots for somehow failing to act,” said Captain
Thrush. Who went on to say, “At a time when unions are being
excoriated, and blamed for a litany of economic ills it’s important to
remember that one union covered the cost to save 300 jobs – instead
UPS chose to create unemployment and add to local, county, state and federal unemployment and social services rolls.”
03-24-2018, 02:25 PM
#120
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Posts: 1,785
While you are being so helpful can you list all the pilot strikes, job actions and injunctions against the IPA, SWAPA and Fedex pilots? Thanks.
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