ALPA dues
03-23-2018, 05:24 PM
#101
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You might have noticed that ALPA expended a lot of time, effort and $ during the lost decade and through the mergers on negotiations, SPSC (Strike), Family Awareness and picketing. Those are the type of expenditures that are paid for out of the MCF.
I get it. You've made up your mind. Hopefully, the wisdom of replenishing the MCF is self-evident to most ALPA members.
I get it. You've made up your mind. Hopefully, the wisdom of replenishing the MCF is self-evident to most ALPA members.
I see you make no mention of the excess retirement dues heist? What's your opinion on that? If any retirement monies from the company are subject to dues, it all should be, not just part of it. I'm sure you know how I feel about that. The sad thing is, over the last 30+ years, I've been an unflinching supporter of Alpa. It's really only been the last contract cycle that I had my eyes opened. I still support Alpa but certainly not as blindly as before.... I am the quintessential average line pilot. If I'm questioning this, you can bet the are a ****load of line pilots doing the same thing.
Yes I've made up my mind, we need a dues reduction and I'll bet 90 plus percent of Delta pilots agree with me.
I get it your mind is made up. I just wish we could leave it up to the line pilot.
Denny
03-23-2018, 05:31 PM
#102
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Then why do they need twice as much in dues money (as a percentage of pay) than, say, IPA, SWAPA, and APA to name a few?
And, with all of the attorneys and on staff at DALPA and ALPA making $200k+ (as well as $100k+ paralegals), why do we still need to farm out legal work to Cohen, Weiss and Simon?
And, with all of the attorneys and on staff at DALPA and ALPA making $200k+ (as well as $100k+ paralegals), why do we still need to farm out legal work to Cohen, Weiss and Simon?
What he said...
Denny
03-23-2018, 05:47 PM
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03-23-2018, 08:59 PM
#104
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The only reason the APA wasn't bankrupted by their $45.5M fine for defying a federal judge was that AA management didn't want the American pilots to rejoin ALPA. That should be a clue of ALPA's effectiveness. Airline managements would love for ALPA to disappear and company unions to proliferate.
03-24-2018, 04:24 AM
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If you believe IPA is a "typically passive company union" then you clearly don't know anything about either the IPA or UPS.
03-24-2018, 06:06 AM
#106
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It's pretty amazing that folks who support ALPA current spending don't seem to have a clue about the complete waste of resources and bloated overspending that has gone on at ALPA for many years depleting what should of been a very healthy balance sheet...
03-24-2018, 06:43 AM
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Please educate us with specific, detailed examples and information.
03-24-2018, 06:59 AM
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Go to a MEC meeting at a major resort or convention center, or better yet go visit ALPA in Washington, see for yourself. Maybe you'll get invited out to one of their lavish dinners complete with fine wine... when that waste stops give me a call. Check out the pay for ALPA national pres., just a little frothy in my opinion...
03-24-2018, 07:09 AM
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Been done, but you ignore the points about farming out legal services when ALPA has lawyers on staff.
You ignore the six-figure admin assistants.
You ignore the other fluff.
But you will try to distract. Neither aide is completely right. Most have admitted ALPA has done some good. Can you admit they do wrong, too?
If management wanted in-house unions, why didn’t they welcome DPA?
You ignore the six-figure admin assistants.
You ignore the other fluff.
But you will try to distract. Neither aide is completely right. Most have admitted ALPA has done some good. Can you admit they do wrong, too?
If management wanted in-house unions, why didn’t they welcome DPA?
03-24-2018, 07:10 AM
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>>You might have noticed that ALPA expended a lot of time, effort and $ during the lost decade and through the mergers on negotiations, SPSC (Strike), Family Awareness and picketing. Those are the type of expenditures that are paid for out of the MCF. <<
Have we (meaning the DAL pilot group) taken money from the MCF for negotiations, etc recently? I thought I read somewhere (couple years ago) that we wouldn't get our dues refund check if that happened. I'd be curious to know when was the last time that the DAL pilot group spent money from the MCF for negotiations/Strike. Anyone know?
Have we (meaning the DAL pilot group) taken money from the MCF for negotiations, etc recently? I thought I read somewhere (couple years ago) that we wouldn't get our dues refund check if that happened. I'd be curious to know when was the last time that the DAL pilot group spent money from the MCF for negotiations/Strike. Anyone know?
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