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Old 08-14-2017, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
I think DALPA could have an NMB case should it come to that, but I agree that it probably won't. DL didn't take too kindly to ACA's little experiment and SKYW attempting it would likely be viewed as an even more severe threat.

But what is the deal on the ATL gates? Who owns/leases them and for how long, and what happens then?
The gates are owned by the airport, who leases them to Skywest with the option to renew the lease every few years, I think it's 7, but can't remember. Skywest then sub-leases those gates to Delta. If Skywest chooses to lease to someone else, that is out of Delta's control after their contract ends. If Skywest loses the gates however, they go up for bid, but Delta would get them all back, because ATL. There would probably be a bunch of negative anti-trust press as well.
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Old 08-14-2017, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ReadyRsv
Delta can't just cancel the entire SKYW contract due to a gate lease issue.
But they can if Skywest can't perform the flying due to a lack of pilots.

That day is coming for all regionals.

Skywest holds no cards.
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Old 08-14-2017, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ReadyRsv
Delta has a contract with SKYW for every aircraft in DAL colors. each tranche of flying (usually around 10-20 hulls) has a revenue guarantee for a period of 5-15 years. As long as SKYW meets contract mins in performance etc DAL has to pay them for the totality of the contract. All Capacity Purchase Agreements are like this. Now if SkyWest launches their own airline out of ATL in breach of some portion of their contract then there may be a legal basis for some form of compensation or modification to the agreement.

Anyway, bankruptcy, failure to met the performance metrics in the CPA or breach would be the only way out. If DAL decided to go all mainline tomorrow they would have to pay their various RJ partners handsomely to get out of the deals...
We routinely cover DCI flying at mainline. No way any regional will meet their required performance going forward.
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Old 08-14-2017, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by spaaks
Someone told me it's because MEM has the most clear weather nights in the US
In checking, it looks like the most clear nights are in Arizona and New Mexico. MEM does not look and different than other Midwest cities.
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Old 08-16-2017, 05:51 AM
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What's the thought on exchanging numbers of large
Rj's for increased gtow?
Say 250 max airframes of 76
Seats for a 5,000lb wt increase???
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Old 08-16-2017, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by msprj2
What's the thought on exchanging numbers of large
Rj's for increased gtow?
Say 250 max airframes of 76
Seats for a 5,000lb wt increase???
There won't be any scope give in this market. The next generation of pilots knows not to give an inch.
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Old 08-16-2017, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
There won't be any scope give in this market. The next generation of pilots knows not to give an inch.
I'm talking about reducing the number by 50-100 airframes
In exchange for 5,000lbs.

My guess is the crj900 will be re-engined and still be able to meet
The 86k limits.

It would offer flexibility to the company but reduce DC size???
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Old 08-16-2017, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by msprj2
I'm talking about reducing the number by 50-100 airframes
In exchange for 5,000lbs.

My guess is the crj900 will be re-engined and still be able to meet
The 86k limits.

It would offer flexibility to the company but reduce DC size???
That would allow DCI to get the next gen E-Jets, they aren't going to let that happen unless they are dumb.
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Old 08-16-2017, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by msprj2
What's the thought on exchanging numbers of large
Rj's for increased gtow?
Say 250 max airframes of 76
Seats for a 5,000lb wt increase???
The current large RJ max is 223 airframes. The chances of raising that number to 250 and increasing the weight are zero on a negotiated contract. The chances for a numbers increase alone are zero on the next contract. The chances for a weight increase are probably between zero an five percent if that 223 number was reduced to at least 133.
To do anything else would be suicide for the 717 or a replacement at Delta.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The current large RJ max is 223 airframes. The chances of raising that number to 250 and increasing the weight are zero on a negotiated contract. The chances for a numbers increase alone are zero on the next contract. The chances for a weight increase are probably between zero an five percent if that 223 number was reduced to at least 133.
To do anything else would be suicide for the 717 or a replacement at Delta.
Ok my bad. I thought max large
Rj's was around 325. I was talking about reducing that #.
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