RJ Scope
08-13-2017, 05:33 PM
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IMO this is just the beginning.
There will be 2 to 4 more of these deals.
All DCI carriers will be in violation of the performance required in their contracts due to pilot shortages.
IMO by 2022 all DCI flying will come home to mainline. The nightmare finally ends.
Will we make the same mistakes by allowing more JV flying?
Or will we make a stand and ensure C2019 has scope language to protect our flying?
If you are a new hire, pay close attention. Our JV scope is worthless.
The ALPA attorneys who sold the failed TA are the same ones who thought our current JV scope was awesome.
We need independent professional negotiators.
If we fail on scope again in C2019, you will never get the genie back in the bottle.
There will be 2 to 4 more of these deals.
All DCI carriers will be in violation of the performance required in their contracts due to pilot shortages.
IMO by 2022 all DCI flying will come home to mainline. The nightmare finally ends.
Will we make the same mistakes by allowing more JV flying?
Or will we make a stand and ensure C2019 has scope language to protect our flying?
If you are a new hire, pay close attention. Our JV scope is worthless.
The ALPA attorneys who sold the failed TA are the same ones who thought our current JV scope was awesome.
We need independent professional negotiators.
If we fail on scope again in C2019, you will never get the genie back in the bottle.
08-13-2017, 05:44 PM
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Didn't he want LIT but they weren't willing to work with him there.
08-13-2017, 05:59 PM
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First I have heard of it. I know the 7th employee he hired. An engineer right out of college. He moved to MEM and spent his entire career there. Was President under him when he retired.
Sound like low likelihood he was trying to go for any other location than his home town. He might have kicked the tires at other airports, but that doesn't mean he seriously considered them.
Sound like low likelihood he was trying to go for any other location than his home town. He might have kicked the tires at other airports, but that doesn't mean he seriously considered them.
08-13-2017, 06:09 PM
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Pax connections depend more on organic O&D than cargo hubs do though. In any case, being an hour from 75% of the population or whatever MEM is (and so are a bunch of other cities) isn't nearly enough to justify a new airline going in big and hoping the pax will come.
08-13-2017, 06:10 PM
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Gloopy, it has nothing to do with leverage, if Delta could buy up every gate in every hub it has, even if to only leave them empty, they would; That's smart business. Also, Delta needs commuter JETS(not pilots), since the government requires them in some markets. So it's win-win for keeping SKYW around. The only reason Endeavor is still around is contract flexibility, and cancellation fodder in NYC. Plus, Endeavor is accumulating ever RJ that is actually owned by mainline.
As far as scope goes, the NMB, and labor law allow code sharing, thus bottom end branding was given up for top end protections. It was a mistake not to protect the brand, but that's water under the bridge.
As far as scope goes, the NMB, and labor law allow code sharing, thus bottom end branding was given up for top end protections. It was a mistake not to protect the brand, but that's water under the bridge.
There's lots of answers to this question, but few actually seem to address it. That alone is interesting.
08-13-2017, 06:13 PM
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While I'm not 100% sure the best way to go about this, I tend to agree. And I'd have no problem spending the much ballyhooed dues reduction money on this, at least for one to two more contract cycles.
Scope at any level, particularly at the top end, will make a much bigger career impact than 0.9% will.
Scope at any level, particularly at the top end, will make a much bigger career impact than 0.9% will.
08-13-2017, 06:24 PM
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While I'm not 100% sure the best way to go about this, I tend to agree. And I'd have no problem spending the much ballyhooed dues reduction money on this, at least for one to two more contract cycles.
Scope at any level, particularly at the top end, will make a much bigger career impact than 0.9% will.
Scope at any level, particularly at the top end, will make a much bigger career impact than 0.9% will.
Pretty straight forward. We hire outside professionals. And they have one goal.
To get us a great contract so others will use them and we will use them again on the contract that follows.
Our ALPA attorneys (professional negotiators) should have resigned after selling the failed TA and being off by hundreds of millions.
Now we find that our JV scope is worthless.
We would be fools to send these same attorneys back to the table.
08-13-2017, 07:59 PM
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First I have heard of it. I know the 7th employee he hired. An engineer right out of college. He moved to MEM and spent his entire career there. Was President under him when he retired.
Sound like low likelihood he was trying to go for any other location than his home town. He might have kicked the tires at other airports, but that doesn't mean he seriously considered them.
Sound like low likelihood he was trying to go for any other location than his home town. He might have kicked the tires at other airports, but that doesn't mean he seriously considered them.
I thought he was "shopping" for locations that were centrally located. Trying to see if the cities would give him tax breaks for business/job creation, etc.
08-14-2017, 04:58 AM
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Remember, when he wrote his college economics paper about his idea for FedEx, his professor (allegedly) gave him a "C" on it. Most city leaders would go along with the professor and be hesitate to do tax breaks on an unproven idea for a startup business venture that a professor thought was a poor idea. Did Bill Boeing get a tax break when he set up shop in Seattle? I kind of doubt it.
08-14-2017, 05:06 AM
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