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Old 09-27-2017, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ItnStln
Did Air Canada trade them in for Boeing's?
Correct. Air Canada agreed to trade them to Boeing as part of a larger 737-800 MAX deal. I think we are talking about 20 used airframes.

Just think about this conceptually: Boeing offers the airplanes to Delta because Boeing doesn't have anything comparable to offer Delta in the desired seat range and now Boeing claims their sales have been hurt by an aircraft in the same seat range. Plus, Boeing was likely offering the beat-up E190s at a cheap price just to get them off their books. Boeing claims to be hurt by something they can't provide. That makes ZERO sense.

I do believe this is far from over. It's annoying and the proposed tariff is ridiculous. I am hoping that Delta proceeds as normal with the CSeries as they prepare for the next round. The threat of a trade war between the US and Canada is looking more likely and maybe an agreement can be reached to prevent one. This is very political, and sadly, a lot of US jobs would also be in jeopardy.

Here's the latest from Delta: https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1C201S
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Old 09-27-2017, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
Correct. Air Canada agreed to trade them to Boeing as part of a larger 737-800 MAX deal. I think we are talking about 20 used airframes.



Just think about this conceptually: Boeing offers the airplanes to Delta because Boeing doesn't have anything comparable to offer Delta in the desired seat range and now Boeing claims their sales have been hurt by an aircraft in the same seat range. Plus, Boeing was likely offering the beat-up E190s at a cheap price just to get them off their books. Boeing claims to be hurt by something they can't provide. That makes ZERO sense.



I do believe this is far from over. It's annoying and the proposed tariff is ridiculous. I am hoping that Delta proceeds as normal with the CSeries as they prepare for the next round. The threat of a trade war between the US and Canada is looking more likely and maybe an agreement can be reached to prevent one. This is very political, and sadly, a lot of US jobs would also be in jeopardy.



Here's the latest from Delta: https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.re.../idUSKCN1C201S


Thanks! It looks like Boeing shouldn't have stopped production of the 737-600 or they should release a 737 MAX 6 to compete in that segment.
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Old 09-27-2017, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
Didn't this all start when Boeing offered Delta 20 used Air Canada E190s? Why would Boeing offer Delta used E190s if they had their own airplane that fit that seat category?
I think it may go back further to the 777/787, Delta has a history of leveraging manufactures to get great prices. This may be Boeing getting back at Delta, as well as stopping BBD.

The ITC is also corrupt, so expect the DoC ruling to stand, or the tariff to actually increase.
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Old 09-27-2017, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by deadseal
anyone have insight into what this means for us? Im LAX and was hoping for Mc C lovin, but now not so much. Are there more 717s to be had? etc etc
No more 717's.....and I believe they are leased......
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Old 09-27-2017, 07:58 AM
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What if you two are right and this is just a ploy by Boeing to acquire Bombardier after their value drops significantly? If Bombardier is poorly managed then it might be feasible. That's one way for Boeing to get Bombardier out of the narrowbody picture.
If Boeing were to acquire BBD, the Cseries would get 5,000+ orders within 6 months.
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Old 09-27-2017, 08:10 AM
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Old 09-27-2017, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Lemons
Airbus makes a superior airplane anyway. I would take the 320 family in every way any day of the week that those crappy 737s there is nothing good about the 737. Nothing.
All kidding aside....i hav grown fond of the 73n.

Sort of in the same way of getting in Dads 1959 plymouth wagon with the push button shifter.

Cheer up. It cud be worse. We cud all be stuck in m88s.
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Old 09-27-2017, 08:12 AM
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my bet, the airplanes still come and the bid for them still goes in october.
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Old 09-27-2017, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
If Boeing were to acquire BBD, the Cseries would get 5,000+ orders within 6 months.


That's what I'm saying what if it's all a ploy by Boeing to bankrupt Bombardier so that they can acquire them for cheap? I think you're right that there would be 5,000+ orders within 6 months if Boeing were to acquire Bombardier.
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Originally Posted by boog123
No more 717's.....and I believe they are leased......
With a option to purchase for almost nothing.
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