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08-31-2017, 12:30 PM
#521
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I think this has to do with the Capex commitment numbers negotiated with Bombardier. My analysis is indicating the CS100 are coming in at between 25-28mm each, based on a negotiated super discounted price based on a paper derate to a 2000 mile range aircraft to replace MD-88's. I suspect that at some stage after the first ones get delivered and ''prove'' themselves, they will be paper re-rated to about 2900 mile range, at which time Delta's Capex commitment for the CS100 aircraft will go up by about 5mm each.
After all, in the unexpected case that issues with the engines prevent the CS100 from operating at more than say 29K feet, its real range will certainly be impacted. Look at the issues with the PW neo, which I think are still operating under a 30K feet service ceiling.
What will be interesting to see is what will the Capex commitment numbers change to once Delta converts delivery position numbers 36 and up over to the CS300--
After all, in the unexpected case that issues with the engines prevent the CS100 from operating at more than say 29K feet, its real range will certainly be impacted. Look at the issues with the PW neo, which I think are still operating under a 30K feet service ceiling.
What will be interesting to see is what will the Capex commitment numbers change to once Delta converts delivery position numbers 36 and up over to the CS300--
08-31-2017, 01:11 PM
#522
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And maybe build some sort of storage box in the back of the plane instead.
09-01-2017, 06:47 AM
#523
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Why bring a bag at all?
Without a major scare, the Jockeys are good for at least 4 days!
I just don't know what to do with my Surface while paying at McD's!
Headset stays around my neck, Anker in the back pocket!
Easy Peasy!
Without a major scare, the Jockeys are good for at least 4 days!
I just don't know what to do with my Surface while paying at McD's!
Headset stays around my neck, Anker in the back pocket!
Easy Peasy!
09-01-2017, 09:10 AM
#525
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Swiss CS100s operate above 40K feet on a daily basis. E.g., see playback of flight LX2512 on September 1st (reached 41K feet): https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/hb-jbb#eb22e7b
09-01-2017, 01:42 PM
#526
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09-01-2017, 01:50 PM
#527
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30K feet service ceiling for the CS100???
Swiss CS100s operate above 40K feet on a daily basis. E.g., see playback of flight LX2512 on September 1st (reached 41K feet): https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/hb-jbb#eb22e7b
Swiss CS100s operate above 40K feet on a daily basis. E.g., see playback of flight LX2512 on September 1st (reached 41K feet): https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/hb-jbb#eb22e7b
https://www.swiss.com/us/EN/fly/fleet/bombardier
09-01-2017, 02:12 PM
#528
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Looks like the Swiss bought the 23.3k lbs of thrust engine variant.
https://www.swiss.com/us/EN/fly/fleet/bombardier
https://www.swiss.com/us/EN/fly/fleet/bombardier
It's not like they were paying top dollar for these orders anyway - we all suspect they got a great deal. Regardless, it should be a great airplane to fly for both passengers and pilots. And the bean counters will be ecstatic.
09-01-2017, 03:17 PM
#529
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Sorry, but I am a bit skeptical. There is so little information known about the program, bases, potential routes, etc. The entire situation is weird. Why would Delta hold back and buy a less capable version? That doesn't make sense to me.... It's not like they were paying top dollar for these orders anyway - we all suspect they got a great deal.
Regardless, it should be a great airplane to fly for both passengers and pilots. And the bean counters will be ecstatic.
It's not like they were paying top dollar for these orders anyway - we all suspect they got a great deal. Regardless, it should be a great airplane to fly for both passengers and pilots. And the bean counters will be ecstatic.
You had me right up to "Why would Delta.........."
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09-01-2017, 03:35 PM
#530
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I couldn't agree more. And we're anywhere from 3-6 weeks out from a bid. It's as if this program is shrouded in secrecy, rumor and misinformation. Weird indeed...
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