Mesabah

The rewards far outweigh the risks, especially if Cap'n'trade is implemented.

dera

So you're saying all turboprops have reliability issues?

Danger Close

or the thousands of Honeywell TFE731s flying around. However, large scale GTFs another story

gloopy

The MAX would do better in cap and trade than the NG.

The C Series is still not out of the woods for significant AD/fleet parking events. Its too new, too unproven and already has significant unforseen issues that could prove to be very costly.

A very cheap and very paid for 717 will make much more money than a parked "Airbus" 220 will.

I'm not predicting the Fauxbus's demise, nor am I predicting a MAX style AD. However cheap 717's could be game changing insurance to preserve bottom end lift if the price is right.

WHACKMASTER

It’s no secret that our management (SWA) is taking a very hard look at and being courted quite intensely by Airbus to purchase the A220 as it is more efficient and will do certain missions better than the MAX-7.

We have just over 500 aging B737-700s that need to be replaced and no doubt most of those will be replaced by the MAX-8. The company does love the economics on that airframe (when it’s actually flying that is).

None of these are rumors anymore as they’ve come out and admitted their interest in the A220, however recently my friend was at the schoolhouse and was told that they are taking a hard look at how the airplane is performing for Delta.

That said, how happy is DLA management with that airframe? Any teething issues yet? Is it under or over performing their initial expectations and estimates at your airline?

forgot to bid

If this somewhat answers the question, the goal I believe for assembly for the 220 is 14 a month between two factories mid next decade, not anytime soon. Current one is doing 2-3 a month on average.

And there is about 500 legit orders, maybe less, I can't remember. So, probably not soon or fast enough to replace anything at swa.

For SWA's large fleet it would still probably need to be the 320N. There are 4000 orders, 6000 if you add the 321N, but at 70 a month or whatever their goal is they could deliver at some point and probably get earlier slots.

As to reliability, if we had issues I bet they wouldn't be your issues by the time you took delivery of one. The overhaul life of the engines was slashed considerably but again throw money at it and it will fix.

Bigger question is where is the heart of Airbus on that jet? It's not totally theirs even now. Some talk about the 220-500 series but the Airbus CEO said at Paris Air Show they're not looking at that right now. I mean why spend money made via the 320 to make a competitor to the 320 where the profits are shared with BBD who is trying to exit commercial aviation?

What about the E195E2-XLR-69?

Mesabah

If SWA gets the A220, Moxy is DOA.

RiddleEagle18

Because it’s far more efficient than the 320. Eventually the market will demand it and airbus better say yes or they will find themselves in the situation Boeing does now. Constantly trying to reinvent a 50+ year old airframe.


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Mesabah

Not sure that's accurate to say vs the 320neo.

I still think Airbus builds the A225, there's definitely a market for it.

FogSkier

Airbus needs to throw a new wing on the 320 series, update the cockpit to 350 standard and they’ll be good to go.....

That being said 220-500 would be really cool.....or a 2 aisle Canabus widebody....🤪