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06-24-2019, 09:11 AM
#3601
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,538
And yes the MAX will be back and in massive numbers as there's nothing wrong with the plane aside from that one system that will be fixed.
06-24-2019, 09:43 AM
#3602
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Position: Light Chop
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OK so what about the 737-700? Seems like the NG (shouldn't it be renamed the OG, but I digest...) could do it at any time and the MAX7 could do it as well when it arrives.
And yes the MAX will be back and in massive numbers as there's nothing wrong with the plane aside from that one system that will be fixed.
And yes the MAX will be back and in massive numbers as there's nothing wrong with the plane aside from that one system that will be fixed.
06-24-2019, 10:28 AM
#3603
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Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: 7ERA
Posts: 1,218
OK so what about the 737-700? Seems like the NG (shouldn't it be renamed the OG, but I digest...) could do it at any time and the MAX7 could do it as well when it arrives.
And yes the MAX will be back and in massive numbers as there's nothing wrong with the plane aside from that one system that will be fixed.
And yes the MAX will be back and in massive numbers as there's nothing wrong with the plane aside from that one system that will be fixed.
Even if you don’t consider that to be something wrong with the airplane, I have zero confidence Boeing with completely fix MCAS until there is another accident.
06-24-2019, 10:31 AM
#3604
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
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Let's not design out all the issues...I want to earn the ridiculous compensation I expect in our next contract!
06-24-2019, 10:32 AM
#3605
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Joined APC: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,311
That is not correct. The nose up pitch would have been fine, but it would have required simulator training. MCAS was not put in place to correct an un-certifiable aerodynamic design, it was put in place to keep the handling the same as the other 737s in order to avoid simulator training.
06-24-2019, 11:12 AM
#3606
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Position: 7ERA
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That is not correct. The nose up pitch would have been fine, but it would have required simulator training. MCAS was not put in place to correct an un-certifiable aerodynamic design, it was put in place to keep the handling the same as the other 737s in order to avoid simulator training.
06-24-2019, 11:17 AM
#3607
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Joined APC: Feb 2010
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But you used it as an example of something that was "wrong with the airplane."
There is nothing wrong with the way the 737 MAX handles. The thing that is wrong is trying to make the 737 MAX handle like a 737-800
There is nothing wrong with the way the 737 MAX handles. The thing that is wrong is trying to make the 737 MAX handle like a 737-800
06-24-2019, 11:36 AM
#3608
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Joined APC: Dec 2006
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 2,370
OK so what about the 737-700? Seems like the NG (shouldn't it be renamed the OG, but I digest...) could do it at any time and the MAX7 could do it as well when it arrives.
And yes the MAX will be back and in massive numbers as there's nothing wrong with the plane aside from that one system that will be fixed.
And yes the MAX will be back and in massive numbers as there's nothing wrong with the plane aside from that one system that will be fixed.
The cost difference between operating an A220 and an A318 is quite substantial so I do think it could make a massive difference on that rout.
06-24-2019, 01:01 PM
#3609
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Posts: 496
Can you cite a source or is this purely anecdotal personal experience? As a former SkyWest pilot and current hyper-critical passenger, I find SkyWest the best Delta regional I travel on. Can you give an example?
06-24-2019, 01:37 PM
#3610
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Position: 7ERA
Posts: 1,218
Besides, I don’t buy that MCAS was simply to make it handle like previous 737s. I don’t believe, based on some articles I have read, that the MAX complies with FAR part 25 regarding stall characteristics or longitudinal stability without MCAS. Further, I don’t believe Boeing would have spent the money and time to add MCAS if the handling characteristics of the MAX were inherently safe.
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