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11-01-2018, 03:41 AM

#3141

notEnuf

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

We still have extremely junior Captains compared to even the good times in the old days.

And extremely senior FOs. This airline is a diverse workplace with abundant choices for all. The best part is you get to make your own choices and live with the consequences.

11-01-2018, 04:48 AM

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TED74

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Originally Posted by Trip7

In 2020 50% of the pilot group will 2014 or later hires.

How much growth in the seniority list are you forecasting? By my math, this doesn't happen until the end of 2021, or even 2022.

11-01-2018, 05:10 AM

#3143

Trip7

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Originally Posted by TED74

How much growth in the seniority list are you forecasting? By my math, this doesn't happen until the end of 2021, or even 2022.

I took that quote from a Crew Resources Monthly update a while back. Based off the current list it'll be 2022 to hit 50% for 2014s so I'm guessing Crew Resources was including A220 growth plus additional hiring in advance of retirement wave. Granted since that update the 220 has been delayed several times so 2021 is likely more accurate

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11-01-2018, 07:24 AM

#3144

TED74

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Originally Posted by Trip7

2020 sounds much better. Let's hope for that!

11-01-2018, 01:52 PM

#3145

beernutt

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gloopy

Literally ...

Literally ...

Literally ...

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

11-01-2018, 06:38 PM

#3146

FL370esq

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beernutt

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

"Who harrr you???"

11-02-2018, 12:43 PM

#3147

DALMD88FO

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Position: A330 First Officer

Posts: 1,465

Quote:

Originally Posted by Han Solo

You're still not getting my point. In hindsight you claimed it was obvious that the junior captains were going to get displaced. If you can show me any post prior to roughly June of 2017 (just after the MOAB results were released and junior captains were in full swing) where you predicted this would happen I'll cede the point to you. Otherwise I call shenanigans on your 20/20 hindsight.

I won't go as far as he does and say literally everybody, however I will say that a good many of us, that have been here for the better part of two decades, looked at the quick upgrades and thought it to be a flash in the pan. The times are still great, however it will get really interesting once you get into the really senior 88 FO displacements and about mid way up the Captain side. There is going to be shuffling for sure. The saving grace for some of the more junior 320 guys will be NYC. It won't be worth it for a lot of those guys to head north, but some will.

11-03-2018, 07:23 AM

#3148

FL370esq

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Originally Posted by captkdobbs

Any bets as to how long it takes us to cut that puppy in half and add another row of seats??

Any bet on how many times Cabin Service needs to Windex butt-prints off of it? 😂

11-03-2018, 11:12 AM

#3149

gloopy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beernutt

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

That literally depends on what your definition of definition means.

11-03-2018, 02:02 PM

#3150

JamesBond

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Position: A350 Both

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Quote:

Originally Posted by notEnuf

And extremely senior FOs. This airline is a diverse workplace with abundant choices for all. The best part is you get to make your own choices and live with the consequences.

"Bids have consequences" - somebody famous