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01-31-2018, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

See for yourself! It's one of the # limitation items for takeoff. I was thinking the same thing... crosswind limits are actually quite low for takeoff overall with 20 knots stead and up to 26 with gusts below 4000.

So it won't be based in LGA?

01-31-2018, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ship741

Reference the cabins, I hear almost daily about the importance of customer service and net promoter scores. As a long time employee, its ironic to see that everything we were taking out of the customer service experience from 1995-2010, we are now putting back in. NPS are in fact coming up as a result. And of course, some mid-level managers who think they're being original get their bonuses every year on the basis of those improved NPS. As someone said earlier, those folks are brilliant....Deja vu, non?

That's how you do flight attendant Union management... Take away, give back, claim benevolence, repeat.

01-31-2018, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid

That's how you do flight attendant Union management... Take away, give back, claim benevolence, repeat.

That means all we have to do is look at the highest crosswind limits any manufacturer offers and say "ME TOO!" and we'll get it.

01-31-2018, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by skidmark

???????????? Me no speak

he just wrote a super long version of "i see what you did there."

01-31-2018, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gloopy

That means all we have to do is look at the highest crosswind limits any manufacturer offers and say "ME TOO!" and we'll get it.

Someone probably heard that the pilots would like the crosswind limit to be 40 kts and they said BS, not doing it. The pilots don't need that.

Hey bbd, we don't want the extra crosswind allowance, give us the minimum. Oh it's all standard? No. We want it to be less. Can we pay to have it reduced? Yes? Great, thanks. I mean mucho gracias.

Take that pilots!

01-31-2018, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

I was just looking at the Vol 1 last night... max crosswind of 5 knots for takeoff above 4000 feet???

Surely that can be fixed?

Pulease...do you really think ANYONE would buy an aircraft with that limit without an alternate procedure?

If you would have read further, you would have seen the limit of 30 Kts xwind for a "restricted takeoff": Vol 1 SP 7.4:

Restricted Takeoff Procedure
Note: A restricted takeoffs is required when the normal takeoff wind
limitations are exceeded.

A restricted takeoff is the same as a normal takeoff except:
• After allowing the engines to stabilize at 50% N1:
• Observe a minimum of GS 20 under the PFD speed tape
prior to advancing thrust levers through 60% N1.

This is our normal takeoff procedure...

Edit - Apologies CLAMP - I see Planetrain already answered this...

01-31-2018, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gloopy

Wow if that's true, its flat out comical. Makes it pathetically unusable at DEN and SLC as well as several other small airports. Is that a hard TO/LDG limitation regardless, just auto land or what?

Gloopy - your statement falls under the category of: "A little knowledge is dangerous- LOL".

see my reply to CLAMP above...

Last edited by 747Flyer; 01-31-2018 at 06:13 PM.