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01-31-2018, 12:02 PM

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80ktsClamp

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Originally Posted by gloopy

Wow if that's true, its flat out comical. Makes it pathetically unusable at DEN and SLC as well as several other small airports. Is that a hard TO/LDG limitation regardless, just auto land or what?

See for yourself! It's one of the # limitation items for takeoff. I was thinking the same thing... crosswind limits are actually quite low for takeoff overall with 20 knots stead and up to 26 with gusts below 4000.

01-31-2018, 12:10 PM

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Vincent Chase

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Originally Posted by RamenNoodles

I do approaches on the 717 with approach speeds in the high 120’s to low 130’s pretty consistently and it’s never an issue. ATC min spacing allows for some level of compression between the marker and the runway.

You do? I see Vref speeds in the high 120s to low 130s. I usually go with at least 5 knots higher. I may be the only one here, but I doubt it.

01-31-2018, 12:13 PM

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Vincent Chase

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid

That's not the Delta way.

He said "cabins" not "cockpits."

01-31-2018, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

I was just looking at the Vol 1 last night... max crosswind of 5 knots for takeoff above 4000 feet???

Surely that can be fixed?

If you look closely its max "unrestricted" takeoff crosswind 5kts, 4000'+. See SP.7 for restricted takeoff procedure. Its basically a partial throttle advancement until 20kts GS. Restricted takeoff crosswind max is 30kts.

01-31-2018, 12:19 PM

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Vincent Chase

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Originally Posted by gloopy

Wow if that's true, its flat out comical. Makes it pathetically unusable at DEN and SLC as well as several other small airports. Is that a hard TO/LDG limitation regardless, just auto land or what?

How big is Delta's wallet? I'm sure that number is a teaser. I flew another Bombardier out of a 4k MSL airport and we hit 38 knots every other week there. This is most likely a pay for play game. "Hey, il fait frais if you buy these planes for chump change, Delta. We know you like cheap deals. The devil will be in the details!" BBD knew Delta operates out of high locations. Now, to make the planes "capable" of doing it, Delta must...how do you say this in Francois?...Oh, yes..."ouvre ton portefeuille!"