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Old 12-08-2017, 05:06 PM
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What's the cost to Boeing of the cseries succeeding? If they did their math then it must be >6B.

But I bet they just shot from the hip on this one. It is boeing.
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What's the cost to Boeing of the cseries succeeding? If they did their math then it must be >6B.

But I bet they just shot from the hip on this one. It is boeing.
The U.K. is ****ed too because of the threat of lost Bombardier aerospace jobs in Belfast...
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The U.K. is ****ed too because of the threat of lost Bombardier aerospace jobs in Belfast...
Having worked with them very closely, I think they were confident the Canadians were bluffing. This could end up being worth much, much more if the Canadians switch to the F-35 from here on out. Not to mention the hit if the UK follows through. My general impression of Boeing military sakes is they are very arrogant and won’t believe countries will not eventually cave.
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What's the cost to Boeing of the cseries succeeding? If they did their math then it must be >6B.

But I bet they just shot from the hip on this one. It is boeing.
Honestly, I don't think they had a choice. Boeing is stuck with the 737, because there is no easy way to absorb the development costs of a new aircraft, when Airbus already has the perfected design.
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Airbus already has the perfected design.


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What's the cost to Boeing of the cseries succeeding? If they did their math then it must be >6B.

But I bet they just shot from the hip on this one. It is boeing.
So F-18s cost 333.3 Million each? I knew pilots were bad at math but man.. Sorry but you data on the Super Hornets is inaccurate.

When writers throw those numbers out they are also over the life of the airplane. So yeah, 6 Billion over 30 years. You know the cost includes

Maintenance, munitions and whatnot that they still have to buy for their old aircraft. Tell the Canadians to stop dumping and everything is fixed.

The military side of Boeing is the old MD. Boeing Commercial Airplanes is where they make their money... and they make a lot.

If the C Series is such a great aircraft as you say why did they have to sell them to Delta at such a low price?
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Originally Posted by PNWFlyer
So F-18s cost 333.3 Million each? I knew pilots were bad at math but man.. Sorry but you data on the Super Hornets is inaccurate.

When writers throw those numbers out they are also over the life of the airplane. So yeah, 6 Billion over 30 years. You know the cost includes

Maintenance, munitions and whatnot that they still have to buy for their old aircraft. Tell the Canadians to stop dumping and everything is fixed.

The military side of Boeing is the old MD. Boeing Commercial Airplanes is where they make their money... and they make a lot.

If the C Series is such a great aircraft as you say why did they have to sell them to Delta at such a low price?
So F-18s have an up-front cost and are then free to operate over a 30 year lifespan? I knew pilots were bad at math but you data on the Super Hornets is inaccurate...

Commercial is where the money is eh? You're killing me man. Taken from Boeing's web page, just to name a few... Yes, a couple are MD holdovers but they're Boeing now.

F-18
C-17
KC-46
B-52
F-15
P-8
Air Force One
C-40
V-22
B-1
JSTARS
AH-64
JDAM
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Originally Posted by Han Solo
So F-18s have an up-front cost and are then free to operate over a 30 year lifespan? I knew pilots were bad at math but you data on the Super Hornets is inaccurate...

Commercial is where the money is eh? You're killing me man. Taken from Boeing's web page, just to name a few... Yes, a couple are MD holdovers but they're Boeing now.

F-18
C-17
KC-46
B-52
F-15
P-8
Air Force One
C-40
V-22
B-1
JSTARS
AH-64
JDAM
Harpoon
Guess you don't know how many 737s Boeing builds a month. It is more than all those aircraft combined, multiplied by 3.
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F-18s do not cost 333M, correct. However if they buy a European system, weapons and lifetime mx....seems about right.

They are temp replacing with some Aussie birds, but long term I'm guessing they'll go with a competitor. And yes it'll cost some cash. That Boeing won't be getting.

Dumping allegations aside (and what is Boeing's competing product that was harmed...?) objectively the C series is an awesome product.

Be interesting to see the ruling in Jan.

Delta is all about the benjamins, so betting the next order will be whoever is cheapest.
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Guess you don't know how many 737s Boeing builds a month. It is more than all those aircraft combined, multiplied by 3.
Guess you've never looked at a government contract.
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