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10-25-2017, 12:09 PM
#1391
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I think what he’s asking, or suggesting is that there is potential here to get trained and sit much longer than the 717 guys did. As in years, possibly.
10-25-2017, 12:22 PM
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10-25-2017, 12:29 PM
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I don't think they have committed to anything at this point. I'm thinking that like in most big organizations, the C-Series training guys are going full-bore until someone says otherwise. Those 'otherwise' decisions will be last minute, and come from the top. I think without a concrete delivery schedule, there won't be a bid. Once guys are trained, they are no good on their current equipment, and the seat lock starts ticking down the day the bid is awarded. Expect a rolling delay on this...
10-25-2017, 02:01 PM
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I don't think they have committed to anything at this point. I'm thinking that like in most big organizations, the C-Series training guys are going full-bore until someone says otherwise. Those 'otherwise' decisions will be last minute, and come from the top. I think without a concrete delivery schedule, there won't be a bid. Once guys are trained, they are no good on their current equipment, and the seat lock starts ticking down the day the bid is awarded. Expect a rolling delay on this...
10-25-2017, 07:14 PM
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They wouldn’t, you’re correct. When the AE happens with Cseries openings, they’re reasonably sure they’re coming soon. If that changes, training cancels and you stay where you are or they rerun the bid.
10-26-2017, 05:53 AM
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Big difference contractually between canceling training with a reschedule within the conversion window verses canceling a AE entirely. Contractually the second option would be required for C series bids and its costly to the company.
10-26-2017, 06:28 AM
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The comment was TIC. (I know, I should have used an emoji but saying you are being sarcastic ruins the joke) But lets discuss this further. If an AE is put out there is no requirement to fill any or all of the positions. Also, once the award is made training can be cancelled. The pilot would remain in their former position and the pay protection doesn't start until someone junior converts. Am I right?
10-26-2017, 06:41 AM
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The comment was TIC. (I know, I should have used an emoji but saying you are being sarcastic ruins the joke) But lets discuss this further. If an AE is put out there is no requirement to fill any or all of the positions. Also, once the award is made training can be cancelled. The pilot would remain in their former position and the pay protection doesn't start until someone junior converts. Am I right?
10-26-2017, 06:49 AM
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That's if an AE award is cancelled. Training can be adjusted within the conversion window, as we've seen with the M88. If it were a 1 year window, would they convert and not fly or convert for pay protection and fly their previous equipment? I don't think having C series pilots on standby to train would be that expensive for the first year.
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