JamesBond

Mr Bastian (I believe) said at a LCP meeting (either last Spring or Fall) that the bill was on the governor's desk awaiting signature. Take that fwiw. However, hopefully it will be rescinded someday, and I would think the 75s would become a very hot commodity when it does.

sailingfun

We could have bought 757's back then. Instead we placed a massive 737 order.

Scoop

Correct. For probably at least 80% of the routes the 737 is adequate and we had 757s for the other routes.

The problem is that if there is no follow on to the 757 those routes become very problematic. Think west coast to Hawaii etc. FWIW the talk of the 757s doing LGA to the west coast is over 2 years old. I think that was one of the reasons for putting the 737 on Hawaii - to free up 757s for LGA.

It would be pretty hard to imagine the perimeter rule staying in place after a multi billion dollar terminal upgrade. Lets see how that would go:

"Well Mr. traveler welcome to the new LGA. What do you think of our state of the art airport complete with all the latest conveniences to make your travel more enjoyable? Wow this is great. What? You want to go where? Sorry, nonstops not allowed."

Scoop

Mesabah

If the airlines can continue to nickle and dime for preferred seating, a twin isle A310 type airplane might be the better 757 replacement. Weight control will be a critical issue here, but I think the technology is there to do it. Specifically, the A350 materials can be used to create a more oval shaped type fuselage.

Herkflyr

The massive 737 order (appropriate for the time) was to replace the 727, not envisioned as a 757 route replacement. That order was in the late 90s and Boeing didn't shut down the 757 until 2004.

That was also with our prior "less capable" management team in place.

RA used to say that one of his bigger regrets was canceling the order of just three 757-300s from the PMNW order book. They are always portrayed as the "most efficient" airplanes in the DAL fleet.

I'm also not buying the "the 757 sits too high up and demands more ramp equipment than the 737, thus the reason for the unpopularity of it." I fly the baby bus now and it sits as high as the 757 does. Last I checked we are still taking delivery of a lot of 321s.

I will concede that the 73N, while old and dated in some ways, is a solid, dependable money maker for the company. They aren't going anywhere.

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forgot to bid

Could they do up the 762 Max Domestic?





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BobZ

Used to fly the 765 from maui to west coast.

Im prty sure the 767NG wud be capable of lga-conus. And beyond.

Imho the primary issue is one of boeing revising the 767 in a configuration that does not compete with itself.

But somebody just might wake up and realize outside of a clean sheet....there is no effective mom 757 replacement.

And a 767 with airframe and powerplant refinements is the only option....with economic and operational bonus of fleet commonality for current 757 operators.

The 757 mom spectrum is a narrow population of airframes. With limited justification for amortizing costs of a clean sheet design. A 767NG variant may be just the thing.

David Puddy

Yes, Boeing has been talking about it for about a year. I'd like to see a hybrid cross-section with twin aisle fuselage - I'd like to see something innovative... That said, when the rumor surfaced that Boeing was reconsidering the 767 passenger manufacturing line, I assume they are considering a similar, low-risk, low-innovation solution like the re-engined and low-risk 737 MAX....

forgot to bid

If the MOM is the 1970s 767.... doesn't that make it a Grand Mom?

flyallnite

A re engined and updated 767-200 makes sense right now. It'd have plenty of range for the HIs, secondary European cities, Latin America performance needs, and can carry LD3s. It's also roomy, and with twin aisles, easy to load, service, etc. passengers would love it.

With new engines, a redesigned wing, more use of composites, and other advancements, it could leverage the proven capabilities and spare parts inventory with low development costs.

Fuel prices aren't going back where they were, if acquired for a good price, we could make a lot of money with these. Not to mention provide a decent product.