Search

Notices

C Series Info

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-03-2017, 11:30 AM
  #101  
:-)
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,339
Default

Originally Posted by CLazarus
There was only one jumpseat clearly visible and I checked multiple camera angles. I think the only way to cram another one in there would be a 737 style seat which folds out in front of the cabin door. However, I saw no evidence of one. It looked to me like you could fit a few rollerboards behind the FO seat. Not as roomy as an Airbus flight deck, but very nice overall and a big step up from the 737. Loved the big windows.
Yeah, only one jumpseat, and that one you see actually slides out in front of the door. The jumpseater then has space to put their things. And as always, not being able to control the temperature in the aircraft comes standard with every Bombardier plane.
Mesabah is offline  
Old 07-03-2017, 03:01 PM
  #102  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: Left
Posts: 1,816
Default

Is it just me or does the cockpit sound exceptionally quiet? Not only is it roomy, but it very quiet. Check out the view of this FO landing the airplane and let me know if you agree about the low noise levels:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RU1WqYBaWoI
David Puddy is offline  
Old 07-03-2017, 07:06 PM
  #103  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: Left
Posts: 1,816
Default

How could Air Canada potentially use their incoming CS300s?

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/air-canadas-cs300s-could-enable-broad-network-chang-434067/
David Puddy is offline  
Old 07-03-2017, 08:25 PM
  #104  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 393
Default

Originally Posted by David Puddy
Is it just me or does the cockpit sound exceptionally quiet? Not only is it roomy, but it very quiet. Check out the view of this FO landing the airplane and let me know if you agree about the low noise levels:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RU1WqYBaWoI
Pretty sure the mic is an audio input to catch the crews conversation, and the ambient noise is what it's picking up in the background​. Not really accurate to judge the noise that way, especially on landing when even the 73 is quiet. Not saying it's not a quiet cockpit but not gonna judge it either way from that video. Plus the fo is wearing a Bose but if it's got a usuable hot mic no complaints here...
Chakerik is offline  
Old 07-05-2017, 12:08 PM
  #105  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: Left
Posts: 1,816
Default CSeries Cockpit Detail - ProLine Fusion

Yet another good video showing the CS300 cockpit in very good detail with an inflight tour from an Air Baltic CS300 Captain on a flight from Riga to Paris CDG:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZKryTA-e_Y


Compare this to the "innovative" cockpit you find in the 1980s designed A321 NEO cockpit:

Airbus A321-251N - Large Preview - AirTeamImages.com
David Puddy is offline  
Old 07-05-2017, 12:32 PM
  #106  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,538
Default

Originally Posted by David Puddy
Compare this to the "innovative" cockpit you find in the 1980s designed A321 NEO cockpit:
I agree the C has a nice flight deck and ergos, etc.

But we all have to admit that this matters literally zero percent in a company's decision making process to buy the plane.

There's a reason every airline in the world isn't flying dual HUD equipped all glass 757's. Economics rule the day and no one but us cares about sexy flight decks or impressive rates of climb.
gloopy is offline  
Old 07-05-2017, 02:13 PM
  #107  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: Left
Posts: 1,816
Default

Originally Posted by gloopy
I agree the C has a nice flight deck and ergos, etc.

But we all have to admit that this matters literally zero percent in a company's decision making process to buy the plane.

There's a reason every airline in the world isn't flying dual HUD equipped all glass 757's. Economics rule the day and no one but us cares about sexy flight decks or impressive rates of climb.
I agree that cockpit automation and ergonomics have zero impact on buying decisions. I wasn't posting this video for management's benefit... Anyone flying the MD88/90 will salivate at the simplicity of this cockpit. Notice no traditional FMS - just point your cursor and click. Everything is designed to be easy to reach and upgradable as technology improves over time. I have several friends flying this ProLine Fusion cockpit on the latest Global 6000 bizjet and they love it.

That said, it helps that the CS100 and CS300 are the most fuel efficient and versaltile airplanes in their individual classes. I am betting the CSeries will be a winner for pax, pilots, route planners and bean counters...

Last edited by David Puddy; 07-05-2017 at 02:25 PM.
David Puddy is offline  
Old 07-05-2017, 03:23 PM
  #108  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Dec 2011
Posts: 146
Default

Originally Posted by David Puddy
... the CSeries will be a winner for pax, pilots, route planners and bean counters...
Only 1 of those 4 really matters. Unless the C-Series can provide a compelling argument that it is incrementally better for a set of passengers over competing offerings to justify buying a fleet, it just won't matter.

The passenger is the only thing that matters. The pilots, route planners and bean counters, etc. support the passenger.
NormalAbnormal is offline  
Old 07-05-2017, 06:16 PM
  #109  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2011
Position: retired 767(dl)
Posts: 5,731
Default

Originally Posted by NormalAbnormal
Only 1 of those 4 really matters. Unless the C-Series can provide a compelling argument that it is incrementally better for a set of passengers over competing offerings to justify buying a fleet, it just won't matter.

The passenger is the only thing that matters. The pilots, route planners and bean counters, etc. support the passenger.
If that were really true, there would be no misbegotten 50 seaters.
badflaps is offline  
Old 07-05-2017, 06:41 PM
  #110  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,538
Default

Originally Posted by David Puddy
That said, it helps that the CS100 and CS300 are the most fuel efficient and versaltile airplanes in their individual classes. I am betting the CSeries will be a winner for pax, pilots, route planners and bean counters...
I like it as a product too, at least on paper so far. But if it doesn't get (a lot) more orders, we could be sitting on a fleet of really advanced hyper electronic Fokker/DoJets in no time.
gloopy is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
acousticgrace
Regional
10
09-25-2014 10:37 AM
rmr1992
Cargo
24
09-11-2014 09:17 AM
Horhay
United
131
02-13-2013 10:58 PM
fartsarefunny
Foreign
6
06-14-2012 05:17 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices