Excargodog

For many of the other lab leaks there was no actual "proof" since no one ever really wanted to admit they were the source of the organism even if they were. But when you found Ebola popping up in Reston Virginia, thousands of miles from the habitat that it was native to, it seemed pretty obvious what had happened. But it was inference, not exactly proof.

Among NATO allies’ concerns is how much longer Biden can muster American support for Europe’s defense, especially after what is likely to be a close election against a Republican former president who is skeptical of assisting partners abroad.

“We’re having more conversations about our own defenses since it looks like Trump is coming back,” an official from a NATO country said after the debate.

On top of that, some NATO allies aren’t wholly satisfied with Biden’s leadership, with many saying he’s been too incremental in his approach to providing weapons and giving Kyiv the go-ahead to strike inside Russia.

“Is the U.S. leading or is it just taking part like everyone else?” asked a senior European diplomat in Washington. The grumbles mainly come from hawkish alliance members — typically in Europe’s east — who want military aid to flood Ukraine without limits on Kyiv’s use of it.


Sort of like entering a Nazi concentration camp and finding bodies stacked in the brematorium reeking if Zyklon-B. They may have died of natural causes but unless you are a holocaust denier that's pretty difficult to believe, even if it is 'merely' inference.

Tfork

And there it is. Believing the conspiracies more than the truth is why this contry is so divided. Demeaning the science and experts because it doesn't fit your narrative ( or more acurately, your politics).

Tfork

I never said I don't believe the lab leak theory. I am just tired of those that post these theories as fact.

vaxedtothemax

That's pretty rich immediately after you say "Believing the conspiracies more than the truth is why this contry is so divided. Demeaning the science and experts because it doesn't fit your narrative ( or more acurately, your politics)"

Social media censored anyone who said "Lab Leak", Fauci said he "was Science" and dissavowed the Lab Leak Theory.

Thedude86

You're calling it a conspiracy theory when it has more evidence (and common sense for that matter) than any other theory.

Thats like saying, its a conspiracy to believe it rained while you were sleeping if you walk outside in the morning and everything is wet. Just because you didn't see it rain with your own eyes doesn't mean its a conspiracy.

I'm pretty sure that now there are more flat earthers than the number of people that don't believe the lab leak theory. Yet, youre calling the lab leak theory a conspiracy. Even the man that has the most to lose (Fauci) won't even deny the lab leak theory anymore.

Tfork

I also never said I do believe the lab leak theory. I don't base it on politics like you do. Seems like you have an axe to grind with Fauci. All because is polically expediant.

Tfork

Great, I think you should take that evidence to the world court. I'm sure you have all the evidence you need to convict the lab. You might want to look up the definition of conspiracy theory although I posted it at the beginning of this thred. I wonder what any court would think of your common sense.

vaxedtothemax

I'd like Tfork to tell me he's not being political, while being political.

Fact is, there have been more debunked "science" facts produced by one side than the other. The Blue side sure doesn't want to talk about Covid policies anymore. That seems to be a common trait amongst those that know they were wrong and refuse to debate any longer. I suppose if I was wrong, and it ruined kids education, produced the largest transfer of wealth in history, caused massive inflation, produced widespread mental health issues, created a complete divide in the Contry, and gave us a dementia patient in the WH, I would want to move on as well. But alas, there are places in the Country that didn't follow "the Fauci Science". They're kids went to school, played sports, and in general, came out the other side somewhat fine. Anyone see the 4th of July violence in ORD? They are certainly "winning" up there.

Thedude86

I'm starting to believe Tfork is either a boomer that still believes the media only reports facts nowadays or is a troll. There's no other explanation. No one believes this was a natural occurrence from an animal anymore.

And before you mention it... I don't watch Faux News. They're just as bad as the others. You can't afford to report facts when over 70% of your revenue is from pharmaceutical ads and sponsorships.

TNDeltaFlyboy

You were either taught wrong or you were a bad learner. You absolutely can yell "fire" in a movie theater if there is, in fact, a fire. Doing so under false pretenses to create a panic is not free speech.