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Old 04-11-2021, 09:02 PM
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Yeah you clicked on a Google link to an article that is a year old. Did you notice the "last update May 14" right at the top of it?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/
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Old 04-11-2021, 09:09 PM
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[QUOTE=Flyfalcons;3220497]Yeah you clicked on a Google link to an article that is a year old. Did you notice the "last update May 14" right at the top of it?

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...us-death-rate/[/QUOTE]

No I didn’t notice it was from last year, not trying to pass off anything. That’s what popped up for world Covid death rate. What’s the updated number?
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Old 04-12-2021, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Michigan is in a full blown 4th wave crisis with the variants, hundreds of breakthrough cases as well. So much for restrictions making it better.
Very few breakthrough cases. Back of the napkin math here....

1.6% of the population was <recorded> infected since March 1. That’s roughly 177,000 people. 1.7 million Michiganders are fully vaccinated. That’s 17% of the population. Yes, making a lot of assumptions, if the vaccine was not effective you’d have ~ 30,000 people contract the virus in this group.

289 did. 289 total breakthrough recorded cases.

Breakthrough is simply rarely happening even in “4th wave” Michigan. Breakthrough deaths are also exceedingly rare and very few are happening (if any) outside of the hospice or long term assisted living facility population.

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Old 04-12-2021, 03:58 AM
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Deaths divided by total confirmed cases makes global CFR 2.16%.

Assuming the CDC’s 4.6:1 estimated infections to confirmed cases ratio across the world, that’d be 0.47% IFR.



Current US CFR is 1.80%, with an estimated IFR of 0.39%.

US estimated IFR is roughly quadruple a typical influenza season, and double a bad influenza season.
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Old 04-12-2021, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Knobcrk1

3.4% Mortality Rate estimate by the World Health Organization (WHO) as of March 3

In his opening remarks at the March 3 media briefing on Covid-19, WHO Director-General Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus stated:

“Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected.” [[url=[url=https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/#ref-13]13]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/#ref-13]13]

Initial estimate was 2%

Initially, the World Health Organization (WHO) had mentioned 2% as a mortality rate estimate in a press conference on Wednesday, January 29 [[url=[url=https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/#ref-1]1][[url=https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/#ref-2]2]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/#ref-1]1][[url=https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/#ref-2]2] and again on February 10. However, on January 29 WHO specified that this was a very early and provisional estimate that might have changed. Surveillance was increasing, within China but also globally, but at the time it was said that:

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...us-death-rate/
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Deaths divided by total confirmed cases makes global CFR 2.16%.

Assuming the CDC’s 4.6:1 estimated infections to confirmed cases ratio across the world, that’d be 0.47% IFR.



Current US CFR is 1.80%, with an estimated IFR of 0.39%.

US estimated IFR is roughly quadruple a typical influenza season, and double a bad influenza season.
😂 Let me put it in a way that’s less diplomatic.

575,000 people have died from the virus the last 12 months. Typical influenza deaths per year in the US, 12,000 to 61,000. That’s just deaths. And all these numbers are only because we all did what we did. What the real death numbers would have been had we not followed mandates? only fauci knows(sarcasm)
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Old 04-12-2021, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Knobcrk1
What the real death numbers would have been had we not followed mandates?
575,000...In case you didn't notice, we failed to protect the vulnerable during the mandates.
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Originally Posted by germanaviator
Thanks. Your parents must be proud of you...

At least we have a lot fewer covid deaths per capita than the U.S.

How would you feel if I said Americans are idiots?

I'm not going to, though. At least you guys got your vaccination effort right.
Most Americans are idiots.
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Old 04-13-2021, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah;[url=[url
tel:3220600]3220600]575,000...In case you didn't notice, we failed to protect the vulnerable during the mandates.
I don’t think “we failed”, except in cases where there was true incompetence such as declining federal assistance, and locking Covid patients in nursing homes. But overall, a virus is going to run its course, and instituting practices without testing whether or not they’ll work is not going to stop its progress.

That’s why all they can do now is look at data and try to justify the actions. But the reality is data show the same results regardless of the protocol taken.

My friends up north and even in MI are stunned to come south and see that we’ve been living almost normally; visiting each other, going to church, restaurants and gyms, and coming home after vacation without quarantine, and our numbers are as good if not better than anywhere else.

On the flip side, I’m aggravated to visit other places where I have to follow unproven protocols that I don’t at home where I feel just as, if not more safe.
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Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator
I don’t think “we failed”, except in cases where there was true incompetence such as declining federal assistance, and locking Covid patients in nursing homes. But overall, a virus is going to run its course, and instituting practices without testing whether or not they’ll work is not going to stop its progress.

That’s why all they can do now is look at data and try to justify the actions. But the reality is data show the same results regardless of the protocol taken.

My friends up north and even in MI are stunned to come south and see that we’ve been living almost normally; visiting each other, going to church, restaurants and gyms, and coming home after vacation without quarantine, and our numbers are as good if not better than anywhere else.

On the flip side, I’m aggravated to visit other places where I have to follow unproven protocols that I don’t at home where I feel just as, if not more safe.
Interesting thought: states with Democrats in control and states where Republicans rule have nearly identical death rates from COVID, the difference—Democratic states average 20-30% higher unemployment rates.
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