Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Pilot Lounge > Hangar Talk > COVID19
Texas reopens to 100%, rescinds mask mandate >

Texas reopens to 100%, rescinds mask mandate

Search

Notices
COVID19 Pandemic Information and Reports

Texas reopens to 100%, rescinds mask mandate

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-10-2021, 03:27 PM
  #911  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Mar 2021
Posts: 186
Default

Originally Posted by Firefighterpilo
Not a single study or source has come out that show cloth masks do more then absolute negligible effects if not cause more harm. Why do some of you guys cling to mask like a religion. Wearing cloth masks outside, in cars and for more then 15 minutes collect and attract more bacteria then help. I can understand people thinking masks work 8 months ago, but to still think they help is just grounded in feelings with no hard evidence to support.

Sure thing bud. Sad to hear about all those surgeons that die from bacteria on their mask at minute 16 of surgery.
FlewUnderWires is offline  
Old 04-10-2021, 03:30 PM
  #912  
:-)
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,339
Default

Originally Posted by Firefighterpilo
Not a single study or source has come out that show cloth masks do more then absolute negligible effects if not cause more harm. Why do some of you guys cling to mask like a religion. Wearing cloth masks outside, in cars and for more then 15 minutes collect and attract more bacteria then help. I can understand people thinking masks work 8 months ago, but to still think they help is just grounded in feelings with no hard evidence to support.
Masks are all they have to cling to. Brazil is struggling because the variants there are a lot more vicious. That's bad luck, from chance mutation, and natural selection.
Mesabah is offline  
Old 04-10-2021, 03:34 PM
  #913  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 198
Default

Originally Posted by FlewUnderWires
Sure thing bud. Sad to hear about all those surgeons that die from bacteria on their mask at minute 16 of surgery.
‘I know that critical thinking is not your forte. But wearing an N95 in a surgical suite in tandem with all other sterile procedures is not even in the same ballpark as wearing a cloth mask around town while you run errands. I know proper mask use and when to wear them. I have to use them at work for patients with real deadly viruses like Ebola, TB, meningitis and the like. I can assure you I have way more training and education about how to wear a mask and protect oneself from disease and have been doing it years before COVID was even uttered. Go ahead though and keep plugging your ears and putting your head in the sand
Firefighterpilo is offline  
Old 04-10-2021, 03:48 PM
  #914  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Mar 2021
Posts: 186
Default

Originally Posted by Firefighterpilo
‘I know that critical thinking is not your forte. But wearing an N95 in a surgical suite in tandem with all other sterile procedures is not even in the same ballpark as wearing a cloth mask around town while you run errands. I know proper mask use and when to wear them. I have to use them at work for patients with real deadly viruses like Ebola, TB, meningitis and the like. I can assure you I have way more training and education about how to wear a mask and protect oneself from disease and have been doing it years before COVID was even uttered. Go ahead though and keep plugging your ears and putting your head in the sand

I’m gonna go ahead and trust the real MDs rather than some grump online.
FlewUnderWires is offline  
Old 04-10-2021, 04:35 PM
  #915  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 534
Default

Originally Posted by Firefighterpilo
Not a single study or source has come out that show cloth masks do more then absolute negligible effects if not cause more harm. Why do some of you guys cling to mask like a religion. Wearing cloth masks outside, in cars and for more then 15 minutes collect and attract more bacteria then help. I can understand people thinking masks work 8 months ago, but to still think they help is just grounded in feelings with no hard evidence to support.
​​​​​​But you don’t think properly wearing something like KN95 in a crowded indoor place is likely somewhat protective? As a layperson I absolutely don’t know for sure but go with the idea it couldn’t hurt and - most importantly - is recommended by most epidemiologists (that I know of). I agree with you on the outdoors but I don’t have any angst towards others who think differently.

You are an EMT, correct? Whatever your answer know that I have a lot of respect for you guys…
Gordie H is offline  
Old 04-10-2021, 04:47 PM
  #916  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jan 2011
Position: A Nobody
Posts: 1,559
Default

Originally Posted by FlewUnderWires
I’m gonna go ahead and trust the real MDs rather than some grump online.
You all do realize what surgeons wear masks for?

Those in the operating room wear mask to prevent their bacteria from falling into open wounds, not for them to catch some evil virus.

There are also studies which show the wearing of masks in surgery actually increased patient infections because the masks rub the skin around the face and cause greater displacement of skin and bacteria to fall off the Doctor. These days they use shields and full covering of hair and clothes to keep their bacteria from transferring to the patient.

Sadly masks are being sold as a protection for the wearer and in reality it’s the reverse. Mask slow and reduce the contact distance of the wearer to those around them.

You should actually feel sorry for the terrified who wear their masks in cars, solo outdoors or anywhere they have zero contact with others. It is all a head game with little if any science behind it. Basically a religion without basis.
Regularguy is offline  
Old 04-10-2021, 04:50 PM
  #917  
Gets Weekdays Off
 
skywatch's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Economy Minus
Posts: 1,053
Default

Originally Posted by FlewUnderWires
Sure thing bud. Sad to hear about all those surgeons that die from bacteria on their mask at minute 16 of surgery.
stupid argument. Surgeons wear a one and done medical mask that is clean. They don’t touch it at all - once they do they throw it away. But you keep cutting up your underwear, touching it, sweating in it, pushing it in your pocket and cling to the idea that somehow, despite all actual evidence to the contrary after a year, that is is a significant mitigating factor.
skywatch is offline  
Old 04-10-2021, 04:54 PM
  #918  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Mar 2021
Posts: 186
Default

Originally Posted by Regularguy
You all do realize what surgeons wear masks for?

Those in the operating room wear mask to prevent their bacteria from falling into open wounds, not for them to catch some evil virus.

There are also studies which show the wearing of masks in surgery actually increased patient infections because the masks rub the skin around the face and cause greater displacement of skin and bacteria to fall off the Doctor. These days they use shields and full covering of hair and clothes to keep their bacteria from transferring to the patient.

Sadly masks are being sold as a protection for the wearer and in reality it’s the reverse. Mask slow and reduce the contact distance of the wearer to those around them.

You should actually feel sorry for the terrified who wear their masks in cars, solo outdoors or anywhere they have zero contact with others. It is all a head game with little if any science behind it. Basically a religion without basis.
The surgery thing was a joke to show how silly fireman’s claim was.


Thank you for encouraging mask use and explaining why they help. But I’ve ALWAYS heard it expressed as protecting others by limiting droplet liberalization. But it also provides protection by reducing viral load. The main issue is that doing it to help others isn’t enough to convince most of y’all to wear one.
FlewUnderWires is offline  
Old 04-10-2021, 05:00 PM
  #919  
:-)
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,339
Default

Originally Posted by Gordie H
​​​​​​But you don’t think properly wearing something like KN95 in a crowded indoor place is likely somewhat protective? As a layperson I absolutely don’t know for sure but go with the idea it couldn’t hurt and - most importantly - is recommended by most epidemiologists (that I know of). I agree with you on the outdoors but I don’t have any angst towards others who think differently.

You are an EMT, correct? Whatever your answer know that I have a lot of respect for you guys…
No, it's not protective, because a situation where you would be at risk for catching Covid, masks would not factor into that equation. It would be the same as wearing a bullet proof vest on an airplane.

If you got Covid in public, it is because the person that gave it to you was an *******.
Mesabah is offline  
Old 04-10-2021, 05:03 PM
  #920  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Mar 2021
Posts: 186
Default

For those of you that are airline pilots you can do a little experiment at home. Check your union email and compare covid cases between pilots and flight attendants. My airline has 46% more pilots with covid than flight attendants. So you have people with similar jobs and lifestyles and even though FAs are in closer and longer proximity with many more people, they have fewer cases. The main difference? They are always masked back there with passengers that are masked. And most pilots rip theirs off as soon as they sit down in the flight deck. Most of our cases are attributed to pilot to pilot transmission.
FlewUnderWires is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
at6d
Major
43
03-03-2021 06:40 AM
SonicFlyer
Delta
139
02-12-2021 03:35 PM
Halon1211
COVID19
115
02-02-2021 07:02 AM
senecacaptain
COVID19
959
11-21-2020 01:33 PM
massgflight
COVID19
788
06-04-2020 05:11 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices