Texas reopens to 100%, rescinds mask mandate
03-03-2021, 04:50 AM
#81
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Really interesting. Every medical official in Texas as well as majors of Dallas and Houston think there’s no scientific basis to these openings and say to continue to follow CDC guidelines. They don’t support this and are saying it’s politics regarding recent winter storms. But hey if it does work, credit will be given where credits due. Hope nothing happens so more of the bigger states can open up.
The Governor was very clear in his release and his speech that it was important to continue to distance and wash hands and wear a mask if appropriate. He is just saying that the people can be trusted to make their own assessments and do the right thing.
The winter storms argument is sort of like the argument that the Cuomo sexual harassment allegations are a deflection from his killing thousands of grandmas in nursing homes. Probably not true.
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03-03-2021, 04:59 AM
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You’re right, my bad. I knew FL had been ‘open’. I thought you had to wear a mask though. Looking into it more, certain jurisdictions have been ‘mandating’ masks in FL but governor’s mandate dictates those local jurisdictions can’t enforce them. Looks like Texas is taking the exact same approach.
03-03-2021, 05:12 AM
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Let’s see, the governor suggested sacrificing the elderly (except himself) to revive the economy; one of your senators abandoned your state during a disastrous winter storm that killed many, including an 11 year old boy, and then he joked about it at CPAC all while supporting the falsehood that Trump won the 2020 election; the power grid is still woefully substandard and unable to handle the cold, despite a study in 2011 revealing its shortcomings; and now your governor is opening the state despite over 90% of 29 million citizens being unvaccinated. You didn’t have to ask me nicely to not move there 
And for the record, nobody is “scared” about the virus any more than they are scared about car crashes when they get in their car and buckle up. Taking common sense precautions is the cornerstone of safety everywhere - especially aviation.
The science is crystal clear; social distancing and masks work. When you abandon these, not only does covid spread, but it mutates into variants that may even be more deadly and contagious. And then the hospitals fill up with so many covid patients that literally all the beds are full and they can’t take anybody else; hence the reason for flattening the curve. So even if you are totally ok and asymptomatic, you may be denied hospital access because there’s no room for you.
Yes, let’s get back to “normal” ASAP, but let’s not rush anything so that we exacerbate the situation and throw away any progress we have made. We are very close to fixing this, but it just doesn’t make sense to open up fully yet. The science shows we need at least 70% vaccinated minimum for herd immunity. Lots of people are speculating that Texas is reopening to distract from the disastrous handling of the winter storm. Whatever the reason is, every doctor and scientist I’ve watched who truly understands the virus says it’s too early; who are any of us to disagree with them?
And for the record, nobody is “scared” about the virus any more than they are scared about car crashes when they get in their car and buckle up. Taking common sense precautions is the cornerstone of safety everywhere - especially aviation.
The science is crystal clear; social distancing and masks work. When you abandon these, not only does covid spread, but it mutates into variants that may even be more deadly and contagious. And then the hospitals fill up with so many covid patients that literally all the beds are full and they can’t take anybody else; hence the reason for flattening the curve. So even if you are totally ok and asymptomatic, you may be denied hospital access because there’s no room for you.
Yes, let’s get back to “normal” ASAP, but let’s not rush anything so that we exacerbate the situation and throw away any progress we have made. We are very close to fixing this, but it just doesn’t make sense to open up fully yet. The science shows we need at least 70% vaccinated minimum for herd immunity. Lots of people are speculating that Texas is reopening to distract from the disastrous handling of the winter storm. Whatever the reason is, every doctor and scientist I’ve watched who truly understands the virus says it’s too early; who are any of us to disagree with them?
03-03-2021, 05:16 AM
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Let’s see, the governor suggested sacrificing the elderly (except himself) to revive the economy; one of your senators abandoned your state during a disastrous winter storm that killed many, including an 11 year old boy, and then he joked about it at CPAC all while supporting the falsehood that Trump won the 2020 election; the power grid is still woefully substandard and unable to handle the cold, despite a study in 2011 revealing its shortcomings; and now your governor is opening the state despite over 90% of 29 million citizens being unvaccinated. You didn’t have to ask me nicely to not move there
And for the record, nobody is “scared” about the virus any more than they are scared about car crashes when they get in their car and buckle up. Taking common sense precautions is the cornerstone of safety everywhere - especially aviation.
The science is crystal clear; social distancing and masks work. When you abandon these, not only does covid spread, but it mutates into variants that may even be more deadly and contagious. And then the hospitals fill up with so many covid patients that literally all the beds are full and they can’t take anybody else; hence the reason for flattening the curve. So even if you are totally ok and asymptomatic, you may be denied hospital access because there’s no room for you.
Yes, let’s get back to “normal” ASAP, but let’s not rush anything so that we exacerbate the situation and throw away any progress we have made. We are very close to fixing this, but it just doesn’t make sense to open up fully yet. The science shows we need at least 70% vaccinated minimum for herd immunity. Lots of people are speculating that Texas is reopening to distract from the disastrous handling of the winter storm. Whatever the reason is, every doctor and scientist I’ve watched who truly understands the virus says it’s too early; who are any of us to disagree with them?
And for the record, nobody is “scared” about the virus any more than they are scared about car crashes when they get in their car and buckle up. Taking common sense precautions is the cornerstone of safety everywhere - especially aviation.
The science is crystal clear; social distancing and masks work. When you abandon these, not only does covid spread, but it mutates into variants that may even be more deadly and contagious. And then the hospitals fill up with so many covid patients that literally all the beds are full and they can’t take anybody else; hence the reason for flattening the curve. So even if you are totally ok and asymptomatic, you may be denied hospital access because there’s no room for you.
Yes, let’s get back to “normal” ASAP, but let’s not rush anything so that we exacerbate the situation and throw away any progress we have made. We are very close to fixing this, but it just doesn’t make sense to open up fully yet. The science shows we need at least 70% vaccinated minimum for herd immunity. Lots of people are speculating that Texas is reopening to distract from the disastrous handling of the winter storm. Whatever the reason is, every doctor and scientist I’ve watched who truly understands the virus says it’s too early; who are any of us to disagree with them?
03-03-2021, 05:20 AM
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"If they don’t do anything then why did everyone have them?" - not a good justification. We used to drill holes in peoples heads to let out evil spirits - "if that didn't do anything, why did we do it?" - that is not an argument that in any way, shape or form, shows efficacy.
"What about those countries that actually had real restrictions and barely had any cases?" OK, what about the moon? they have no restrictions and 0 cases. Again, correlation is not causation. Different areas/countries have LOTS of different factors that play into how bad the virus is - and I won't even get into the fact that "cases" and "infections" are two VERY different things. I won't make the argument "what about those countries that had less restrictions and less cases" because I think the same rules apply.
"When cases were going up last year did we ease restrictions or add them? What happened to the cases?" What is your point though? When "cases" went up, we added restrictions, and cases went up even more. What point are you making? You cannot be saying that alone (adding restrictions) is proven to have helped because taken alone, in a vacuum, cases went up while we added restrictions. We hope that maybe the restrictions helped keep the cases from going up more, but there are soooo many unaccounted for variables that these observational studies are barely educated guesses on the impact of the restrictions.
It reminds me of some stories from around the time germ theory was being developed - in a nutshell, more pregnant women were dying in hospitals then when they delivered using midwives at home. The hospitals, in care of a doctor, theoretically, should have been the safest place to give birth - that passes every test of logic except that was not the case. Turns out the doctors themselves were infecting the women (with these unknown germs) and causing more harm than good. This ultimately led to the practice of hand washing and the acceptance of germ theory - but the point is, who would think giving birth with a doctor would be more dangerous than a midwife? Every single scientist at the time would say the hospital would be the best place to give birth. The biggest reason the doctors rejected the idea that they could possibly have anything to do with this death rate? Their EGOS.
"Keep trying" Sure thing. It passes the time until this nonsense is over and I can take a real vacation again.
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03-03-2021, 06:01 AM
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I agree maybe a touch early, but there in lies the problem. What number is the safe number? People do much better when there is a plan. Follow the science and data is not a plan, not without specifics.
03-03-2021, 06:02 AM
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Let’s see, the governor suggested sacrificing the elderly (except himself) to revive the economy; one of your senators abandoned your state during a disastrous winter storm that killed many, including an 11 year old boy, and then he joked about it at CPAC all while supporting the falsehood that Trump won the 2020 election; the power grid is still woefully substandard and unable to handle the cold, despite a study in 2011 revealing its shortcomings; and now your governor is opening the state despite over 90% of 29 million citizens being unvaccinated. You didn’t have to ask me nicely to not move there
And for the record, nobody is “scared” about the virus any more than they are scared about car crashes when they get in their car and buckle up. Taking common sense precautions is the cornerstone of safety everywhere - especially aviation.
The science is crystal clear; social distancing and masks work. When you abandon these, not only does covid spread, but it mutates into variants that may even be more deadly and contagious. And then the hospitals fill up with so many covid patients that literally all the beds are full and they can’t take anybody else; hence the reason for flattening the curve. So even if you are totally ok and asymptomatic, you may be denied hospital access because there’s no room for you.
Yes, let’s get back to “normal” ASAP, but let’s not rush anything so that we exacerbate the situation and throw away any progress we have made. We are very close to fixing this, but it just doesn’t make sense to open up fully yet. The science shows we need at least 70% vaccinated minimum for herd immunity. Lots of people are speculating that Texas is reopening to distract from the disastrous handling of the winter storm. Whatever the reason is, every doctor and scientist I’ve watched who truly understands the virus says it’s too early; who are any of us to disagree with them?
And for the record, nobody is “scared” about the virus any more than they are scared about car crashes when they get in their car and buckle up. Taking common sense precautions is the cornerstone of safety everywhere - especially aviation.
The science is crystal clear; social distancing and masks work. When you abandon these, not only does covid spread, but it mutates into variants that may even be more deadly and contagious. And then the hospitals fill up with so many covid patients that literally all the beds are full and they can’t take anybody else; hence the reason for flattening the curve. So even if you are totally ok and asymptomatic, you may be denied hospital access because there’s no room for you.
Yes, let’s get back to “normal” ASAP, but let’s not rush anything so that we exacerbate the situation and throw away any progress we have made. We are very close to fixing this, but it just doesn’t make sense to open up fully yet. The science shows we need at least 70% vaccinated minimum for herd immunity. Lots of people are speculating that Texas is reopening to distract from the disastrous handling of the winter storm. Whatever the reason is, every doctor and scientist I’ve watched who truly understands the virus says it’s too early; who are any of us to disagree with them?
Montana quietly lifted all restrictions on Jan 15th. The seven day average for cases in Montana have plummeted from 444 per day on the 15th to 170 per day on Mar. 1st. Should we ignore that science so we can go with your science instead? Maybe the cases are dropping in Montana because they don't understand the science. If someone explained it to them maybe the cases would start to rise.
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