Texas reopens to 100%, rescinds mask mandate
04-01-2021, 03:45 PM
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The 26 year old candidate for school board got more votes than Trump in my city of 2.8M. As did a vote on reintroduction of wolves. So, aside from slicing things up, Trump got crushed in popular vote and in the EC.
04-01-2021, 03:49 PM
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You make reasonable points. Trump is a liar just like pretty much any politician in the past several decades. He did some good things and some bad. I think the problem is the reluctance or maybe fear of those who lead to point out the obvious. We are a fat nation, 40% obese. Much of the rest of the world isn't. The three biggest factors other than age that point to covid death are weight, heart health, and diabetes. Japan 4% obese, Vietnam 2%, India 4%, Singapore 6%, China 6%. See the trend? Of course they beat us. It isn't masks and lock downs. It is general health.
04-01-2021, 04:46 PM
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Admittedly I don’t understand your specific point. Total vote was 81M to 74M so a 7M delta. Electoral college was 306-232 ( what Trump called a landslide). Swing state vote delta was 231,674 votes total in AZ, GA, MI, NV, PA and WI. I couldn’t find numbers for 2016 from the same source for the same states, but when Trump won in 2016 he won by 79,646 votes in MI, PA, WI.
The 26 year old candidate for school board got more votes than Trump in my city of 2.8M. As did a vote on reintroduction of wolves. So, aside from slicing things up, Trump got crushed in popular vote and in the EC.
The 26 year old candidate for school board got more votes than Trump in my city of 2.8M. As did a vote on reintroduction of wolves. So, aside from slicing things up, Trump got crushed in popular vote and in the EC.
04-01-2021, 04:51 PM
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AZ, GA and WI were carried by 42,918 votes for Biden, all flips from 2016 and would have thrown the election into the House (269-269). NV was next closest at about 34,000 votes to Biden, so swing 77,000 votes and it’s a Trump win. Point is, it was closer than imagined by those who think it’s a mandate for Biden.
Regardless of how the states spilt up 7M more people supported Biden or hated Trump. That’s the biggest mandate in a long time.
04-01-2021, 06:53 PM
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https://www.npr.org/2016/11/02/50011...e-popular-vote
Apparently you can win the Presidency with 23% of the popular vote. I was curious what the lowest % could be. Here it is...
Just for illustrating why I don’t think EC is a valid indicator for mandate.
Apparently you can win the Presidency with 23% of the popular vote. I was curious what the lowest % could be. Here it is...
Just for illustrating why I don’t think EC is a valid indicator for mandate.
04-01-2021, 07:16 PM
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Birx brought it up this week. First surge, etc. Obviously, “12 months ago” is still an important episode for her.
Fauci said you don’t need to wear a mask. You can interpret that for yourself, but the implied message heard was “masks make no difference in collective protection.” (because that’s true?)
So, the media? The “other side?” Trump set his policies. Pelosi and Schumer spun it into racism (travel ban from China). You’re right. They are to blame.
Fauci said you don’t need to wear a mask. You can interpret that for yourself, but the implied message heard was “masks make no difference in collective protection.” (because that’s true?)
So, the media? The “other side?” Trump set his policies. Pelosi and Schumer spun it into racism (travel ban from China). You’re right. They are to blame.
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04-01-2021, 08:15 PM
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You guys need to be factual, true Fauci did not say they did work. Here’s what he said:
“there's no reason to be walking around with a mask," infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci told 60 Minutes.
While masks may block some droplets, Fauci said, they do not provide the level of protection people think they do. Wearing a mask may also have unintended consequences: People who wear masks tend to touch their face more often to adjust them, which can spread germs from their hands.
But there is another risk to healthy people buying disposable masks as a precaution. The price of face masks is surging, and Prestige Ameritech, the nation's largest surgical mask manufacturer, is now struggling to keep up with the increased demand.
"It could lead to a shortage of masks for the people who really need it," Fauci said.”
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/prevent...es-2020-03-08/
“there's no reason to be walking around with a mask," infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci told 60 Minutes.
While masks may block some droplets, Fauci said, they do not provide the level of protection people think they do. Wearing a mask may also have unintended consequences: People who wear masks tend to touch their face more often to adjust them, which can spread germs from their hands.
But there is another risk to healthy people buying disposable masks as a precaution. The price of face masks is surging, and Prestige Ameritech, the nation's largest surgical mask manufacturer, is now struggling to keep up with the increased demand.
"It could lead to a shortage of masks for the people who really need it," Fauci said.”
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/prevent...es-2020-03-08/
04-01-2021, 08:32 PM
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You guys need to be factual, true Fauci did not say they did work. Here’s what he said:
“there's no reason to be walking around with a mask," infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci told 60 Minutes.
While masks may block some droplets, Fauci said, they do not provide the level of protection people think they do. Wearing a mask may also have unintended consequences: People who wear masks tend to touch their face more often to adjust them, which can spread germs from their hands.
But there is another risk to healthy people buying disposable masks as a precaution. The price of face masks is surging, and Prestige Ameritech, the nation's largest surgical mask manufacturer, is now struggling to keep up with the increased demand.
"It could lead to a shortage of masks for the people who really need it," Fauci said.”
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/prevent...es-2020-03-08/
“there's no reason to be walking around with a mask," infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci told 60 Minutes.
While masks may block some droplets, Fauci said, they do not provide the level of protection people think they do. Wearing a mask may also have unintended consequences: People who wear masks tend to touch their face more often to adjust them, which can spread germs from their hands.
But there is another risk to healthy people buying disposable masks as a precaution. The price of face masks is surging, and Prestige Ameritech, the nation's largest surgical mask manufacturer, is now struggling to keep up with the increased demand.
"It could lead to a shortage of masks for the people who really need it," Fauci said.”
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/prevent...es-2020-03-08/
Perhaps a different way to illustrate the point would be to examine the number of times since that interview that Fauci, the NIH, CDC, or EU equivalent have reinforced mask usage. So you assert that he is wrong multiple times, vs just that time, and so is everyone else. Which is more likely?
04-01-2021, 08:56 PM
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Ronaldo,
I never assert Fauci was “wrong,” I just posted what he said to correct the statement some seem to infer that he said masks don’t work.
Fauci made it quite clear what he meant.
However, he is a walking theatre and puts a twist on everything he states to keep him in the lime light. He will bend to whoever is in charge and support his agenda. He also supports proven dangerous viral research which may have led to the accidental release of the COVID virus. All of which is factual and well documented.
But you all want to go on and on about masks. Which are clearly a far more political and social statement these days than any real or imagined effectiveness in preventing the spread of COVID.
If you really paid attention you’d see the COVID is the perfect vehicle for fixing all our Nations woes.
I never assert Fauci was “wrong,” I just posted what he said to correct the statement some seem to infer that he said masks don’t work.
Fauci made it quite clear what he meant.
However, he is a walking theatre and puts a twist on everything he states to keep him in the lime light. He will bend to whoever is in charge and support his agenda. He also supports proven dangerous viral research which may have led to the accidental release of the COVID virus. All of which is factual and well documented.
But you all want to go on and on about masks. Which are clearly a far more political and social statement these days than any real or imagined effectiveness in preventing the spread of COVID.
If you really paid attention you’d see the COVID is the perfect vehicle for fixing all our Nations woes.
04-01-2021, 09:11 PM
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Ronaldo,
I never assert Fauci was “wrong,” I just posted what he said to correct the statement some seem to infer that he said masks don’t work.
Fauci made it quite clear what he meant.
However, he is a walking theatre and puts a twist on everything he states to keep him in the lime light. He will bend to whoever is in charge and support his agenda. He also supports proven dangerous viral research which may have led to the accidental release of the COVID virus. All of which is factual and well documented.
But you all want to go on and on about masks. Which are clearly a far more political and social statement these days than any real or imagined effectiveness in preventing the spread of COVID.
If you really paid attention you’d see the COVID is the perfect vehicle for fixing all our Nations woes.
I never assert Fauci was “wrong,” I just posted what he said to correct the statement some seem to infer that he said masks don’t work.
Fauci made it quite clear what he meant.
However, he is a walking theatre and puts a twist on everything he states to keep him in the lime light. He will bend to whoever is in charge and support his agenda. He also supports proven dangerous viral research which may have led to the accidental release of the COVID virus. All of which is factual and well documented.
But you all want to go on and on about masks. Which are clearly a far more political and social statement these days than any real or imagined effectiveness in preventing the spread of COVID.
If you really paid attention you’d see the COVID is the perfect vehicle for fixing all our Nations woes.
He does, apparently, suck at Baseball.
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