Texas reopens to 100%, rescinds mask mandate
04-01-2021, 01:25 PM
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The first and most obvious thing the is ZERO evidence Biden, Harris, Fauci, Pelosi or any other person you seem to imply are the real heroes would or could have done anything different or better.
You really need to look around and see the duplicity of those in charge today. Biden/Harris are failing at everything. And the lies they continue to spread....
04-01-2021, 01:26 PM
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Alright the ventilator nonsense has got to stop too. Show me a study that proves it was being intubated that killed them? Why doesn’t everyone who uses a ventilator die? Why are they still in use? Why do some patients exceed the need for ventilators and undergo ECMO? You are so obsessed with wanting covid to be harmless that it seems completely out of the question that someone who was a candidate for a ventilator that would not have survived on their own might also not be able to recover on a ventilator? Early on they were used before treatment plans were established, sometimes all you can do is keep someone alive and breathe for them while they are sedated to see if their body and lungs can recover. Sometimes patients that are in that poor condition just don’t make it. There are too many doctors in my family who have had to deal with those accusations and all this other nonsense for far too long to let that one slide.
So doctors didn’t learn anything throughout this pandemic? They were perfect from the beginning? Please tell me any one of your family’s many doctors can at least say after everything that’s happened, “Well, if I could do it again, I may have done (this) differently.”
Thats real science. Testing hypothesis and learning from it. Like my Grandma says, that’s why they call it “practicing” medicine.
04-01-2021, 01:31 PM
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Right. At the time they didn’t know what to do so for a lot of them the best treatment was ventilating in hopes the patient would recover. I’d take that over just sending them home to die. It was at least trying something. Also doctors STILL use ventilators and ECMO all the time. It’s not like it was a poor medical choice. Nor is the ventilator responsible for the death of the patient.
04-01-2021, 01:41 PM
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Right. At the time they didn’t know what to do so for a lot of them the best treatment was ventilating in hopes the patient would recover. I’d take that over just sending them home to die. It was at least trying something. Also doctors STILL use ventilators and ECMO all the time. It’s not like it was a poor medical choice. Nor is the ventilator responsible for the death of the patient.
Similarly, Trump isn’t responsible for their deaths either. Frankly, neither is Fauci (but knowingly misleading us in the face of a pandemic should have consequences, like not being on MTP or FNS every weekend).
Theres a lot as a nation we could have done differently. I’m still of the informed opinion that masks don’t work. Yet, I wear one because that’s what we’re doing. And got vaccinated. And am a conservative. COVID is real.
I’m done for the day.
04-01-2021, 02:15 PM
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"In general, Federal aviation regulations state that, to be eligible for an FAA certificate or additional aircraft rating, an applicant must be able to read, speak, write, and understand the English language."
How did you ever pass this requirement?
https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/...20and%20ground
Since I know how much you like memes...
04-01-2021, 03:13 PM
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It's quite clear you are uniformed, extremely biased, partisan, and unaware of what is going on the USA at this very moment.
The first and most obvious thing the is ZERO evidence Biden, Harris, Fauci, Pelosi or any other person you seem to imply are the real heroes would or could have done anything different or better.
You really need to look around and see the duplicity of those in charge today. Biden/Harris are failing at everything. And the lies they continue to spread....
The first and most obvious thing the is ZERO evidence Biden, Harris, Fauci, Pelosi or any other person you seem to imply are the real heroes would or could have done anything different or better.
You really need to look around and see the duplicity of those in charge today. Biden/Harris are failing at everything. And the lies they continue to spread....
1. Trump lied to the American people, then bragged about it on tape
2. We know a result better than 525,000 dead is possible because every country on earth beat that result.
3. We know where we were on Mar 11 and where the rest of the world was. Our “result” thus far is poor.
4. We did a lot of things half-arsed instead of doing a few things well. 24% of US counties had zero mitigation efforts, zero.
5. Fauci made a mistake in trying to prevent a run on masks. He admitted it was his single largest regret/mistake.
6. #5 Does not make him a moron, or less qualified than a pilot, to deal with infectious diseases it makes him a dude that screwed up. A costly mistake for sure.
7. Trump encouraged protests against social distancing, mask wearing, and restriction of non-essential movement.
8. At the same time, he and/or his administration did a good job cutting red tape to fast track the vaccine development
I happen to think Trump ignored a lot of advice from scientists, epidemiologists, and MDs. I don’t find that a stretch because he ignored his staff at NASA, NCAR, DOD, and NOAA. Trying to pretend like he did the best with what he had, is disingenuous. On average, I think he did worse than most leaders. I think many Americans agreed, and the election results across the board tend to support that theory. The election became a referendum on his leadership during COVID. As we know, he lost in a “landslide” (his word from 2016 describing his victory).
04-01-2021, 03:28 PM
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I certainly wouldn’t imply Biden, Harris, or Pelosi are heroes. I might say Biden/Harris have started off well. Perfect? Nope. The admin just demoted somebody for planning an indoor event while they’re trying to get people to do the right thing for a few more weeks. They’ve been undermined by a few governors already, but that’s nothing new.
1. Trump lied to the American people, then bragged about it on tape
2. We know a result better than 525,000 dead is possible because every country on earth beat that result.
3. We know where we were on Mar 11 and where the rest of the world was. Our “result” thus far is poor.
4. We did a lot of things half-arsed instead of doing a few things well. 24% of US counties had zero mitigation efforts, zero.
5. Fauci made a mistake in trying to prevent a run on masks. He admitted it was his single largest regret/mistake.
6. #5 Does not make him a moron, or less qualified than a pilot, to deal with infectious diseases it makes him a dude that screwed up. A costly mistake for sure.
7. Trump encouraged protests against social distancing, mask wearing, and restriction of non-essential movement.
8. At the same time, he and/or his administration did a good job cutting red tape to fast track the vaccine development
I happen to think Trump ignored a lot of advice from scientists, epidemiologists, and MDs. I don’t find that a stretch because he ignored his staff at NASA, NCAR, DOD, and NOAA. Trying to pretend like he did the best with what he had, is disingenuous. On average, I think he did worse than most leaders. I think many Americans agreed, and the election results across the board tend to support that theory. The election became a referendum on his leadership during COVID. As we know, he lost in a “landslide” (his word from 2016 describing his victory).
1. Trump lied to the American people, then bragged about it on tape
2. We know a result better than 525,000 dead is possible because every country on earth beat that result.
3. We know where we were on Mar 11 and where the rest of the world was. Our “result” thus far is poor.
4. We did a lot of things half-arsed instead of doing a few things well. 24% of US counties had zero mitigation efforts, zero.
5. Fauci made a mistake in trying to prevent a run on masks. He admitted it was his single largest regret/mistake.
6. #5 Does not make him a moron, or less qualified than a pilot, to deal with infectious diseases it makes him a dude that screwed up. A costly mistake for sure.
7. Trump encouraged protests against social distancing, mask wearing, and restriction of non-essential movement.
8. At the same time, he and/or his administration did a good job cutting red tape to fast track the vaccine development
I happen to think Trump ignored a lot of advice from scientists, epidemiologists, and MDs. I don’t find that a stretch because he ignored his staff at NASA, NCAR, DOD, and NOAA. Trying to pretend like he did the best with what he had, is disingenuous. On average, I think he did worse than most leaders. I think many Americans agreed, and the election results across the board tend to support that theory. The election became a referendum on his leadership during COVID. As we know, he lost in a “landslide” (his word from 2016 describing his victory).
04-01-2021, 03:36 PM
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I certainly wouldn’t imply Biden, Harris, or Pelosi are heroes. I might say Biden/Harris have started off well. Perfect? Nope. The admin just demoted somebody for planning an indoor event while they’re trying to get people to do the right thing for a few more weeks. They’ve been undermined by a few governors already, but that’s nothing new.
1. Trump lied to the American people, then bragged about it on tape
2. We know a result better than 525,000 dead is possible because every country on earth beat that result.
3. We know where we were on Mar 11 and where the rest of the world was. Our “result” thus far is poor.
4. We did a lot of things half-arsed instead of doing a few things well. 24% of US counties had zero mitigation efforts, zero.
5. Fauci made a mistake in trying to prevent a run on masks. He admitted it was his single largest regret/mistake.
6. #5 Does not make him a moron, or less qualified than a pilot, to deal with infectious diseases it makes him a dude that screwed up. A costly mistake for sure.
7. Trump encouraged protests against social distancing, mask wearing, and restriction of non-essential movement.
8. At the same time, he and/or his administration did a good job cutting red tape to fast track the vaccine development
I happen to think Trump ignored a lot of advice from scientists, epidemiologists, and MDs. I don’t find that a stretch because he ignored his staff at NASA, NCAR, DOD, and NOAA. Trying to pretend like he did the best with what he had, is disingenuous. On average, I think he did worse than most leaders. I think many Americans agreed, and the election results across the board tend to support that theory. The election became a referendum on his leadership during COVID. As we know, he lost in a “landslide” (his word from 2016 describing his victory).
1. Trump lied to the American people, then bragged about it on tape
2. We know a result better than 525,000 dead is possible because every country on earth beat that result.
3. We know where we were on Mar 11 and where the rest of the world was. Our “result” thus far is poor.
4. We did a lot of things half-arsed instead of doing a few things well. 24% of US counties had zero mitigation efforts, zero.
5. Fauci made a mistake in trying to prevent a run on masks. He admitted it was his single largest regret/mistake.
6. #5 Does not make him a moron, or less qualified than a pilot, to deal with infectious diseases it makes him a dude that screwed up. A costly mistake for sure.
7. Trump encouraged protests against social distancing, mask wearing, and restriction of non-essential movement.
8. At the same time, he and/or his administration did a good job cutting red tape to fast track the vaccine development
I happen to think Trump ignored a lot of advice from scientists, epidemiologists, and MDs. I don’t find that a stretch because he ignored his staff at NASA, NCAR, DOD, and NOAA. Trying to pretend like he did the best with what he had, is disingenuous. On average, I think he did worse than most leaders. I think many Americans agreed, and the election results across the board tend to support that theory. The election became a referendum on his leadership during COVID. As we know, he lost in a “landslide” (his word from 2016 describing his victory).
You make reasonable points. Trump is a liar just like pretty much any politician in the past several decades. He did some good things and some bad. I think the problem is the reluctance or maybe fear of those who lead to point out the obvious. We are a fat nation, 40% obese. Much of the rest of the world isn't. The three biggest factors other than age that point to covid death are weight, heart health, and diabetes. Japan 4% obese, Vietnam 2%, India 4%, Singapore 6%, China 6%. See the trend? Of course they beat us. It isn't masks and lock downs. It is general health.
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