FlewUnderWires

So.....just invert the colors to be intellectually dishonest? You’re neglecting gerrymandering, voter suppression, and the dramatic shift cause by the results of the last Republican controlled government. If your voices aren’t heard then lobby more, focus on state and local elections (without gerrymandering), or more or secede. Plus aren’t y’all championing that you don’t want others telling you what to do? Seems an awful lot like you want to have the minority rule.

And about the silly helmet in cars question. I wore a helmet, flight suit, and fireproof gloves and often a respirator when I was Cropdusting even though it’s tough. I would wear a helmet motorcycling. And even in a car there are additional safety measures taken. But more on topic, I don’t speed, or text and drive and I wear a mask to be a decent human being and protect others.

skywatch

Wait - so to confirm, you wear a helmet while you are driving in a car, is that what you said?

Of course, on your motorcyle, there are lots of statistics that show the likelihood of surviving a crash when you wear a helmet vs. when you don't. Helmets are about 37 percent effective in preventing motorcycle deaths. But you know that. You are a smart person.

https://www.iihs.org/topics/fatality...20all%20riders.

Here is another "silly" question (it must be silly if it makes me question my assumptions) - when you wear a mask, what % of decrease in infection transmission is there attributed to the mask?

Does it reduce your likelihood of infecting someone else by 10%? 30%? .00005%? Do you have any idea?

FlewUnderWires

Ok, boomer. No. I don’t wear a helmet in a car. So....good job? You got us?

But I don’t because I am ok with the risks that I am exposing MYSELF to. However, if there is any chance that by wearing a mask I can reduce the risk of others, whether the percent chance is ANYWHERE between zero and one hundred, I will wear it. Because like so many have said... it isn’t about me.

450knotOffice

So, for you masks are forever? The new paradigm, regardless of herd immunity?

Seneca Pilot

I didn't invert the colors. Those were the maps that were clear and large enough to post so they can be read.

Republicans hold state legislatures and governorships with a pretty large margin. There are not that many Democrat led states but they wield a disproportionate level of national power due to their larger populations. Currently 23 states are completely Republican led with only 15 fully Democrat. Republicans have legislature control in 30 states and Democrats in 18. Those people are doing what you tell them to do. They are voting for the leadership they want but they are outnumbered by the coasts and the metro centers.

Secession may the the end game.

skywatch

Boomer? Ouch you hurt me.

OK, so to be clear, even if it has .000001% improvement in your chance to spread a virus that is basically a very nasty flu, you are good with wearing it until the end of time. Boomer has got it, thanks.

The odds of dying in a motor vehicle crash are 1 in 103; 77% of all drivers have been in a crash.

https://www.news9.com/story/5e6fca6c...a-car-accident

You could get in a car accident and hurt someone - so by your logic for risk avoidance (any chance at all), should you maybe stop driving?

Yep, it is a thought exercise. Trying to get you to think critically and challenge your assumptions. Well that is not going to happen, apparently only boomers do that. Instead I will spell it out. I don't think that wearing masks makes any kind of statistically significant change in the real/actual risk of catching the virus, certainly not enough to justify the inconvenience and harm that they do. Prove me wrong. Post the number. Post the % reduction in virus transmission attributed to wearing the mask.

Ronaldo

Not to be rude but it appears you haven’t really thought about this or done any research. Under the current system absolutely no one cares about Indiana. The votes don’t matter at all to Democrats since they will lose the state. They also don’t matter to Republicans because they know they will win the state, so it doesn’t matter if they get 50.1 or 99.9 of the vote. Under a popular vote system every vote would matter equally. Under the current system the dems can win by taking their normal states and a few of the flip states. So really, unless you live in a perennial battleground state, no one cares.

The system we use now was not designed and in fact was disliked by the founders. States decided to go all or nothing during the JQA and Jackson election (IIRC). Only two states, *Nebraska* and Maine actually work the way the system was intended. Representation regardless of population is built into the Senate, on purpose. It is not built into the presidency, for a reason.

I cease my thread hijack.

skywatch

You are right. I am clearly uneducated. Which state is Omaha again?

Seriously though, there are better constitutional experts on here than I am...they can challenge your nonsense view that disregards the existence of the constitution (and the experiment with the articles of confederation) and the makeup of the house of representatives and the senate.

FlewUnderWires

That .000001% would save 300 american lives. So, again, yes. I would. Also the “just the flu” argument was disproven ages ago. It is 10X more fatal. Also, what inconvenience or HARM especially does it do?

So by your logic if accidents happen then why don’t you just speed, run stop signs, drink and drive and not wear a seatbelt? Also these are all just ridiculous whataboutisms and attempted gotchas.

Also, good job on calling out Omaha state, my dude. You keep on rolling with these debate zingers.

Ronaldo

Yeah, you got me, I made a mistake while picturing the electoral map wherein Omaha has its own district in Nebraska. So you are willing to call my view “nonsense that disregards the existence of the constitution...” yet you either cannot or will not debate it with me?