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Old 03-10-2021, 06:09 PM
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You're confusing group think with informed rational opinions.

You think because some politicians and doctors who haven't treated a patient in decades and work as bureaucrats told you certain things work and they are based in science that is is true and certain.

Zap mentioned in another thread that Hungary is looking pretty bad right now. Hungary has been in total lock down since November. No pubs, no restaurants, no gatherings, and a curfew. Zero tolerance. Since that started their cases have gone through the roof. What evidence is there that those restrictions did anything? I'll help you out, none. The only thing we can know for sure is that those people are locked totally down and faring worse than other people who are opening up. No one can know for sure why they are having problems but we certainly cannot say they are better off for being in complete lock down. Their cases have done the opposite of other countries and that rise started when the lock down started. I am not implying that the lock down caused the rise but there is no evidence that it helped stop any cases either.
You’re still arguing about this? You didn’t learn anything from all those posts telling you your logic on this is completely flawed? Picking one anomaly that’s the exception. What about Taiwan and many other countries that did the lockdowns and had almost negligible cases? Last year, what happened when there were spikes? They did the lockdowns right? Which way did the numbers go then? Up, down? Still confused?
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Old 03-10-2021, 06:12 PM
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When it comes to your health in a pandemic , that’s probably the worst time to start thinking for yourself. You should probably listen to the professionals.
Jeez dude. Stop already. For the record...there is never a time to not think for yourself. ESPECIALLY in whatever emergency-du-jour. You are really lost and confused. It’s ok, the government is here for you. Just do as they say and everything will be fine.
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Old 03-10-2021, 06:15 PM
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Jeez dude. Stop already. For the record...there is never a time to not think for yourself. ESPECIALLY in whatever emergency-du-jour. You are really lost and confused. It’s ok, the government is here for you. Just do as they say and everything will be fine.
Actually everything appears to be working out fine. Vaccine is here, country is opening up. Some of us tried to save some lives in the process. Was that so hard? I’m guessing you’re still not satisfied.
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Old 03-10-2021, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Knobcrk1
You’re still arguing about this? You didn’t learn anything from all those posts telling you your logic on this is completely flawed? Picking one anomaly that’s the exception. What about Taiwan and many other countries that did the lockdowns and had almost negligible cases? Last year, what happened when there were spikes? They did the lockdowns right? Which way did the numbers go then? Up, down? Still confused?

You're picking the anomalies. You keep referring to islands and Asian populations without acknowledging the obvious differences in culture, isolation, and genetics. I didn't pick anything. I am looking at data and facts. I am not comparing homogenous populations and isolated islands with areas with land borders and diverse cultures. That is your MO. You keep on posting and embarrassing yourself though. It's pretty funny.

Quote those posts. I recall a lot telling you that YOUR logic was flawed.
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Old 03-10-2021, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot
You're picking the anomalies. You keep referring to islands and Asian populations without acknowledging the obvious differences in culture, isolation, and genetics. I didn't pick anything. I am looking at data and facts. I am not comparing homogenous populations and isolated islands with areas with land borders and diverse cultures. That is your MO. You keep on posting and embarrassing yourself though. It's pretty funny.

Quote those posts. I recall a lot telling you that YOUR logic was flawed.
Ok if you’re denying that the numbers went down after our periodic lockdowns in the US when we had the spikes then I don’t know what to tell you. Have a great day. By the way, the reason why we look at other countries is to show you that it CAN be done, regardless of culture and other differences.
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Old 03-10-2021, 06:53 PM
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Ok if you’re denying that the numbers went down after our periodic lockdowns in the US then I don’t know what to tell you. Have a great day.

You don't know what to tell me because you have no facts on your side just guessing. Florida didn't lock down. California did. The populations are very similar. The climate is very similar. The deaths per capita are a virtual tie. This is a seven month challenge trial with as good a control to challenge group match as you're going to find. The result was statistically the same. No difference in outcome despite a complete opposite set of rules and restrictions around the virus.

Like you said, the vaccines are here. We have large amounts of herd immunity. We had an unknown amount of people who were, for whatever reason not susceptible to the virus. Sadly we had some succumb to the virus. In some cases leaders' reactions and actions contributed massively to the death toll. Also sadly the long term effects of the lock downs and restrictions on the population are just beginning. We won't know that toll for quite a long time. It is a shame you don't GAF about any of those people.

How coronavirus set off a bankruptcy wave for the U.S. economy (cnbc.com)

Experts describe increase in teen suicides due to COVID-19 (yahoo.com)

Coronavirus: The lost school year - POLITICO

Children Who Rely on School Meals Are Going Hungry in the US (globalcitizen.org)

School closures mean more child abuse is going unreported – The San Francisco Examiner (sfexaminer.com)

But hey, they have unemployment so it's all going to be fine.
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Old 03-11-2021, 02:29 AM
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Actually everything appears to be working out fine. Vaccine is here, country is opening up. Some of us tried to save some lives in the process. Was that so hard? I’m guessing you’re still not satisfied.
You deserve a participation trophy!
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You deserve a participation trophy, DUMBASS!
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Nailed it.
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Old 03-11-2021, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Knobcrk1
When it comes to your health in a pandemic, that’s probably the worst time to start thinking for yourself. You should probably listen to the professionals.
Spoken like the truly and thoroughly indoctrinated.
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When it comes to your health in a pandemic , that’s probably the worst time to start thinking for yourself. You should probably listen to the professionals.
Jesus.....
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