Regularguy

Someone posted and questioned the whole idea what "virtual signaling" is (duffman I believe), well here it is plain as the day is long.

This statement made by the poster is the whole intent and heart of "virtual signaling."

To put it a bit simpler, "I am morally right and you are wrong!"

Ronaldo

Unbelievable. Perhaps I’m misunderstanding what you are saying. Are you saying DDT does not have detrimental effects on the environment? The Bald Eagle eggs? Or are you saying slowly killing people is better than quickly killing people? Or are you saying we should spray African children?

Spanish flu (Kansas Flu), H1N1, killed way way more than 500000.

galaxy flyer

I didn’t say DDT didn’t have a detrimental effect, just that banning it eliminating an affordable means of reducing malaria. And, in many case, the detrimental effects was based more on overuse of DDT because it was so cheap. IOW, we didn’t need to ban it, we needed more education on proper use of it. DDT was easily the only way Africa was going to afford eradication of mosquito borne malaria due to cost in the ‘60s. Where did you get the idea I said spray African children? DDT is a pesticide used to kill mosquitoes in their habitat.

Yes, Spanish flu killed way more than COVID, but we haven’t had a pandemic like this, other than Asian flu outbreaks in 100 years. Look at the long view, 100 years without a pandemic is pretty darn good.

Grumpyaviator

Now you’re just embarrassing yourself.😁

Grumpyaviator

exactly, it’s all about projecting an image of social superiority through conformity, and then using the phrase “follow the science” to give the illusion of credibility.

fwi, the phrase itself is not scientific support, but lemmings cling to it and anyone who says it without seeing non-manipulated, agenda-driven data behind it.

Knobcrk1

You’re talking forcing people to get infected. Do you not see how that’s not possible? I mean seriously. Remember what happened in NY? You’re talking about doing that for the whole country. Theoretically it will cause us to gain herd immunity, although there’s places like Brazil right now that are surging with more deadlier mutations, but at what cost? Do you honestly not see this? And please spear us the kids jumping off the bridge because they can’t take it anymore story, it’s a pandemic it really really sucks for everyone.

skywatch

OK, someone else has to take a turn with knobby- I cannot take it any more. Warning - all his responses are pure emotion, never any factual basis at all. what happened in NY? I don't think you understand what happened in NY. "more deadlier" mutations are out there right now? measured how? every measure I can see has COVID-19 down now across the board.

At what cost comes herd immunity, he says - really? Do you think that potential cost would somehow be more than the $12 TRILLION DOLLAR deficit my kids will have to figure out now? More than the thousands of destroyed businesses, the full year plus of education my kids have lost? the cost of undiagnosed illnesses gone untreated for a year while we shut down medical visits for anything but COVID? And yes, the cost in addictions, suicides, and overdoses (that you wish to discount as "kids jumping off bridges") while we destroy western civilization so (and I am sorry, this is going to sound harsh) that more 85+ year olds, whom represent fully 25% of the deaths right now, can lay in bed in nursing homes for an extra 5 months of "living"?

RiddleEagle18

But if it just saves 1 life...


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Knobcrk1

Ok that’s super nice that you want old people dead because they would be dead in 9 months anyways, never mind their families or them missing out on potential things like watching their grandson solo a plane during those 9 months. So again, do you not realize that what you want is not possible? I’m seriously trying to understand how you expect it to happen? Because if you really can’t then it’s just ramblings of ideology. I’m not trying to troll, can you expect explain how you would do it?

RiddleEagle18

It’s why in the past we have always measure pandemics by years of life lost not lives lost.

Considering half of the deaths are in nursing homes, I don’t think those people are missing out on much.

However, Since you have now justified our restrictions to keep these people alive so they “don’t miss out on potential things”, what are your forcing the rest of the population to “miss out” on? We are at a year of lost life experiences for the entire population so grandma can maybe live an extra 9 months. A year of missed schooling for the poorest children. A year of lost income for families. A year of losing homes kids can grow up in. A year of increased drug and alcohol abuse. A year of increased domestic abuse. A year of increased teenage depression. A year of increased suicide. The list goes on.

I’m glad grandma got to see Johnny solo from her death bed in the nursing home though


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