Andy Dufresne

No, what you did was state that the reason Covid hasn’t gotten as much attention as Smallpox is probably because Covid doesn’t produce the same visual side effects as Smallpox.

That is among the most alarmingly absurd and blatantly ignorant statements I’ve ever read - written by someone who is presumably educated and is attempting to influence public opinion on this board and likely others.

Maybe it was the death rate. Maybe. Idk. Look into it and let me know.

PlaneS

I’d ask you the same thing, but since you ignore the science about masks and social distancing, we already know the answer to that one.

Red Forman

Wrong for the third time. A majority of those 65+ in Texas have been vaccinated and they are shooting for that number to be 70% by the end of the month. But please keep spreading your misinformation.

PlaneS

I know what I said. And that is - if the WHO can marshal enough resources to undertake a massive 20 year elimination campaign against a virus that’s many thousands of years old, it’s not completely out of the realm of possibility that the same could eventually be done for COVID. I said it in response to a comment that COVID will never be eliminated, and that we shouldn’t use that as an excuse to not try our hardest to do just that.

That’s all I said, and you ran with it and blew it entirely out of proportion. I went on to speculate that, perhaps if people got covered in pustules when they got COVID like they did when they got Smallpox, they’d care more about it - even without a 30% death rate like Smallpox, I bet you’d care a lot more about COVID if it made you look like a living pimple. Everyone knows that Smallpox had a higher death rate. Admittedly, I could’ve written that part better so as to convey I wasn’t drawing any direct comparisons or ignoring the death rate, but I’m clarifying it now.

And please, spare me your righteous indignation. What’s truly absurd and blatantly ignorant is how you feel it’s appropriate for people to be outside without masks or social distancing right now. In a few decades, the history books will not look kindly on people who did not take COVID seriously.

Seneca Pilot

I haven't made a single argument that you shouldn't wear a mask and distance when you think it is needed. I wear masks and distance when I think it is appropriate.

What I do understand is that I can look at large amounts of data from two very similar states with very different responses to the virus and see a statistical tie with respect to deaths per capita. None of you have yet to make any argument that negates that inconvenient fact. No amount of factual data will sway you. You are fully indoctrinated and ignore all facts. You argue on feelings and hope we are dumb enough to accept your reality.

Thedude86

What science? The only thing that says they work is Dr. Fauci making assumptions. And he’s contradicted himself numerous times on multiple subject matters. He’s never provided any actual data. Show us the science that shows they’ve made any kind of difference?

PlaneS

That would be a perfect response if I asked you: “Tell me you don’t know anything about statistics, without telling me you don’t know anything about statistics.”

Ever heard of “correlation does not imply causation?”

It is entirely lazy thinking to attempt to draw a direct comparison between COVID precautions and death rates of say, Texas and New York, just by looking at the numbers on the CDC website or Johns Hopkins University. I have posted plenty of statistics, scientific studies, and expert opinions to support my points, but I guess haven’t read them and only listen to the emotions behind my words.

PlaneS

Done.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...seccestitle150

and

https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118

Seneca Pilot

There is no correlation, and we aren't looking for a cause only statistical differences.

I purposely chose states with polar opposite responses to the virus but similar demographics and climate to control for as many conditions as possible. There can be no study better than one involving over 50 million people of similar demographics living in similar climates but living under vastly different covid restrictions for more than a year. The fact is that there is statistically no difference in death rates between the two states.

PlaneS

Reference their own DSHS website, and be sure to select fully vaccinated from the drop down: https://tabexternal.dshs.texas.gov/t...kingDisabled=y

967,781 (vaccinated above 65 years of age) / 3,602,000 (total population of the state above 65) *100 = 26.87% fully vaccinated

Even if you go by those who have had only 1 vaccine, it’s still 47.98% - a minority of those above 65.