Fox News: surge in new cases
#341
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Not a fan of the Donald by any stretch, won't vote for him (I'm with Her) but your arguments are kind of borderline silly.. Right out of the gate, you don't believe that the warmer summer weather was part of the reason for the drop in "cases" over the summer? Really? That was a "LIE" in your book? I think a lot of your other interpretations of truth and fact are a little biased and slanted toward opinion as well, but don't have the time or energy to go through your whole book you posted.
Maybe unrelated, but I love how the folks that preach tolerance and open mindedness are some of the most intolerant, critical, and closeminded folks out there when it comes to folks that don't agree with them.
Maybe unrelated, but I love how the folks that preach tolerance and open mindedness are some of the most intolerant, critical, and closeminded folks out there when it comes to folks that don't agree with them.
Correlation is not causation, and while a dip in the severity of the pandemic did coincide with warmer weather, that more likely has to do with the situations people placed themselves in, ie, spending more time outside than inside. The virus itself was largely unaffected and remained uncontrolled in the US despite the credible warnings of public health officials of an upswing in the Fall/Winter.
Everything I posted can be substantiated. If the facts don't align with your feelings, I don't know what to tell you. I'm perfectly receptive to honest, good faith, and fact-based debate, but if that means pretending that an argument based on nonsense and revisionist history has to be treated as legitimate, then that's where we differ.
#342
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I don't think you're up for a fact based debate, I think you're just someone throwing partisan balls.
I roll my eyes at anyone who think the president or anyone else would have prevented the infection rates we have in the US, especially when the rest of the world is having their infection rates surge well above ours.
Trying to politicize a virus is just silly.
I roll my eyes at anyone who think the president or anyone else would have prevented the infection rates we have in the US, especially when the rest of the world is having their infection rates surge well above ours.
Trying to politicize a virus is just silly.
Other countries have been successful. Look at South Korea, Japan, Germany, New Zealand, etc. I refuse to believe that we couldn't have been the best in the world at managing this crisis. I think America is the greatest country in the world, and we're perfectly capable of living up to that status. Just because you're willing to settle for mediocrity on the world stage because you like the president doesn't mean the rest of the country is
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Comparing the surge in other countries, who have kept cases relatively low, to the ongoing high cases in the US is disingenuous.
Other countries have been successful. Look at South Korea, Japan, Germany, New Zealand, etc. I refuse to believe that we couldn't have been the best in the world at managing this crisis. I think America is the greatest country in the world, and we're perfectly capable of living up to that status. Just because you're willing to settle for mediocrity on the world stage because you like the president doesn't mean the rest of the country is
Other countries have been successful. Look at South Korea, Japan, Germany, New Zealand, etc. I refuse to believe that we couldn't have been the best in the world at managing this crisis. I think America is the greatest country in the world, and we're perfectly capable of living up to that status. Just because you're willing to settle for mediocrity on the world stage because you like the president doesn't mean the rest of the country is
#344
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I’d generally agree that more active leadership would have gotten better public buy-in.
HOWEVER
In Feb and March, Fauci and the SG both publicly said healthy people don’t need to wear masks. In early April, they changed their minds and guidance.
Freely acknowledging POTUS support from THAT POINT would have helped...
Don’t you think that change in position damaged the public credibility of public health officials, especially given the parallels you have made to SARS and masks as a historical mitigation tool?
This thing ain’t seasonal flu - its less severe for children (even with vaccine and Tamiflu) and MUCH worse for the 65+ demographic which makes up 78%+ of COVID deaths despite being less than 15% of confirmed positive cases.
Either way it is now late October not April, and as much as masks suck they’re a low-cost, low-risk mitigation strategy for indoor public spaces.
HOWEVER
In Feb and March, Fauci and the SG both publicly said healthy people don’t need to wear masks. In early April, they changed their minds and guidance.
Freely acknowledging POTUS support from THAT POINT would have helped...
Don’t you think that change in position damaged the public credibility of public health officials, especially given the parallels you have made to SARS and masks as a historical mitigation tool?
This thing ain’t seasonal flu - its less severe for children (even with vaccine and Tamiflu) and MUCH worse for the 65+ demographic which makes up 78%+ of COVID deaths despite being less than 15% of confirmed positive cases.
Either way it is now late October not April, and as much as masks suck they’re a low-cost, low-risk mitigation strategy for indoor public spaces.
#345
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Okay, but the Democrats, who want control of government, did an astronomically worse job than Trump with the virus. Four Democrat governors killed 100,000 people in healthcare/nursing homes, against guidance issued by the CDC/HHS. Trump's failure was in controlling the Democrats. At a minimum, Cuomo violated the civil rights of tens of thousands of people who were unable to make a choice in the matter.
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What are you smoking? He never had a plan at all. The officials were left to fend for themselves. There was no national policy on anything other than starting an anti mask movement so he could hold on to his base. He did absolutely nothing and worse lied about it all. Did you look at cases in NY since April? They’re almost zero compared to the red states. Now you suddenly care about Covid deaths?
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What are you smoking? He never had a plan at all. The officials were left to fend for themselves. There was no national policy on anything other than starting an anti mask movement so he could hold on to his base. He did absolutely nothing and worse lied about it all. Did you look at cases in NY since April? They’re almost zero compared to the red states. Now you suddenly care about Covid deaths?
Look at the date. I'm not going to call you a liar, because obviously the media has gaslighted you.
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https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/press-r...navirus-threat
Look at the date. I'm not going to call you a liar, because obviously the media has gaslighted you.
Look at the date. I'm not going to call you a liar, because obviously the media has gaslighted you.
Wasting your time. I think he is a Pelosi campaign volunteer.
Doesn't care or worse doesn't understand that health policy is set and carried out at the state level. The federal level is only guidance and support, not actual policy. See NY forcing nursing homes to accept infected patients. Not a federal policy but a state one.
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