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#871
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Here you go: https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/index.html
#872
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Each state shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a number of electors, equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or person holding an office of trust or profit under the United States, shall be appointed an elector.
#873
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There is no Constitutional mechanism where someone can overturn a free and fair election via the legislatures. What you are describing is a bloodless coup. My question still stands.
If Trump loses in the courts, but defies the results of the election and hangs onto power through other means, do you support his 2nd term?
If Trump loses in the courts, but defies the results of the election and hangs onto power through other means, do you support his 2nd term?
Not all challenges to the elections are through the courts. The twelfth amendment is the information you seek. Free and fair is being contested. We will have to see.
I may need more popcorn.
#874
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Cool. Looks like it's up the states to decide how those Electors are assigned. Let's go to the Pennsylvania Election Code, Article XIV.
Sections 1416 and 1417:
Hmm.. nothing about legislature overturning ballots. The legislature doesn't even enumerate. The Governor does.
https://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/L...37/0/0320..PDF
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Sections 1416 and 1417:
Hmm.. nothing about legislature overturning ballots. The legislature doesn't even enumerate. The Governor does.
https://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/L...37/0/0320..PDF
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#875
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Cool. Looks like it's up the states to decide how those Electors are assigned. Let's go to the Pennsylvania Election Code, Article XIV.
Sections 1416 and 1417:
Hmm.. nothing about legislature overturning ballots. The legislature doesn't even enumerate. The Governor does.
https://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/L...37/0/0320..PDF
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Sections 1416 and 1417:
Hmm.. nothing about legislature overturning ballots. The legislature doesn't even enumerate. The Governor does.
https://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/L...37/0/0320..PDF
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This replaced that.
Twelfth Amendment
Twelfth Amendment AnnotatedThe Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;–The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;–The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. [And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.–]The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
#876
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This replaced that.
The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;–The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;–The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. [And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.–]The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
Twelfth Amendment
Twelfth Amendment AnnotatedThe Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;–The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;–The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. [And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.–]The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
#877
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In short if enough states cannot certify the election due to irregularities for Biden to have a majority the congress votes per the amendment. More Republican states than Democrat.
If the recounts and investigations don't turn up anything then Biden wins due to having the majority of electoral votes. If enough states have actual voter fraud and ballots not allowed then Trump could still win constitutionally even with less than 270.
Michigan has impossible vote counts in several places. PA has a serious problem with equal protection challenges. This isn't over and is getting interesting.
I need more popcorn.
#878
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In short if enough states cannot certify the election due to irregularities for Biden to have a majority the congress votes per the amendment. More Republican states than Democrat.
If the recounts and investigations don't turn up anything then Biden wins due to having the majority of electoral votes. If enough states have actual voter fraud and ballots not allowed then Trump could still win constitutionally even with less than 270.
Michigan has impossible vote counts in several places. PA has a serious problem with equal protection challenges. This isn't over and is getting interesting.
I need more popcorn.
If the recounts and investigations don't turn up anything then Biden wins due to having the majority of electoral votes. If enough states have actual voter fraud and ballots not allowed then Trump could still win constitutionally even with less than 270.
Michigan has impossible vote counts in several places. PA has a serious problem with equal protection challenges. This isn't over and is getting interesting.
I need more popcorn.
By the way, you'll explode from eating too much popcorn before any hard evidence of voter fraud actually materializes.
#879
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Cool. Looks like it's up the states to decide how those Electors are assigned. Let's go to the Pennsylvania Election Code, Article XIV.
Sections 1416 and 1417:
Hmm.. nothing about legislature overturning ballots. The legislature doesn't even enumerate. The Governor does.
https://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/L...37/0/0320..PDF
Does this make you sad? Do you want to keep going?
Sections 1416 and 1417:
Hmm.. nothing about legislature overturning ballots. The legislature doesn't even enumerate. The Governor does.
https://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/L...37/0/0320..PDF
Does this make you sad? Do you want to keep going?
Then determine whether the Constitution is the supreme law of the land or not.
#880
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An uncertified vote opens the door for the state legislatures to appoint the electors.
I love popcorn. I am not advocating just pointing out what I pick up here and there. My gal lost I am a spectator at this point.
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