Fox News: surge in new cases
11-18-2020, 01:21 PM
#801
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You want links to every poll pre-election?
You can't do the math that in 2016, the incumbent got 62 million votes and 72 million this time?
You want links to every story of ballots being "found?"
The information is out there for those with an open mind and a curiosity to wonder whether our election system is totally sideways (which it clearly is).
These are FACTS. Calling them "claims" is a continuation of the "nothing to see here....these aren't the droids you're looking for" narrative. Nothing is over and Biden is NOT the "President-Elect" until December 14th IF the Electoral College make him such.
I don't think it will happen. But IF the current result reverses, the meltdown will be EPIC.
You can't do the math that in 2016, the incumbent got 62 million votes and 72 million this time?
You want links to every story of ballots being "found?"
The information is out there for those with an open mind and a curiosity to wonder whether our election system is totally sideways (which it clearly is).
These are FACTS. Calling them "claims" is a continuation of the "nothing to see here....these aren't the droids you're looking for" narrative. Nothing is over and Biden is NOT the "President-Elect" until December 14th IF the Electoral College make him such.
I don't think it will happen. But IF the current result reverses, the meltdown will be EPIC.
11-18-2020, 01:23 PM
#803
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Joined APC: Apr 2020
Posts: 237
You want links to every poll pre-election?
You can't do the math that in 2016, the incumbent got 62 million votes and 72 million this time?
You want links to every story of ballots being "found?"
The information is out there for those with an open mind and a curiosity to wonder whether our election system is totally sideways (which it clearly is).
These are FACTS. Calling them "claims" is a continuation of the "nothing to see here....these aren't the droids you're looking for" narrative. Nothing is over and Biden is NOT the "President-Elect" until December 14th IF the Electoral College make him such.
I don't think it will happen. But IF the current result reverses, the meltdown will be EPIC.
You can't do the math that in 2016, the incumbent got 62 million votes and 72 million this time?
You want links to every story of ballots being "found?"
The information is out there for those with an open mind and a curiosity to wonder whether our election system is totally sideways (which it clearly is).
These are FACTS. Calling them "claims" is a continuation of the "nothing to see here....these aren't the droids you're looking for" narrative. Nothing is over and Biden is NOT the "President-Elect" until December 14th IF the Electoral College make him such.
I don't think it will happen. But IF the current result reverses, the meltdown will be EPIC.
Stop whining. You lost, fair and squarre
11-18-2020, 01:37 PM
#805
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Of course we do. Let's go back to a more sane world for a moment...
A 'normal' POTUS: "While we realize it appears that our opponent has won, we'd like to look into some potential issues with the vote and will bring forth evidence as discovered. Ensuring a free and fair election is the bedrock of American Democracy and we'll fully accept the final results so the country can move forward. Meanwhile, we'll work with the transition team in the event they have indeed won so as to not hamper America in her security, goals & desires."
Current POTUS: "RIGGED ELECTION!!!111 THEY LIED WE GONNA BURN THIS MOFO DOWN!!!! #FAKENEWS #YALLARESUCKAS #INHERITANCE*****ES #NOEVIDENCE #NEPOTISMRULES #BANKRUPT4LIFE"
A 'normal' POTUS: "While we realize it appears that our opponent has won, we'd like to look into some potential issues with the vote and will bring forth evidence as discovered. Ensuring a free and fair election is the bedrock of American Democracy and we'll fully accept the final results so the country can move forward. Meanwhile, we'll work with the transition team in the event they have indeed won so as to not hamper America in her security, goals & desires."
Current POTUS: "RIGGED ELECTION!!!111 THEY LIED WE GONNA BURN THIS MOFO DOWN!!!! #FAKENEWS #YALLARESUCKAS #INHERITANCE*****ES #NOEVIDENCE #NEPOTISMRULES #BANKRUPT4LIFE"
11-18-2020, 01:55 PM
#806
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Of course we do. Let's go back to a more sane world for a moment...
A 'normal' POTUS: "While we realize it appears that our opponent has won, we'd like to look into some potential issues with the vote and will bring forth evidence as discovered. Ensuring a free and fair election is the bedrock of American Democracy and we'll fully accept the final results so the country can move forward. Meanwhile, we'll work with the transition team in the event they have indeed won so as to not hamper America in her security, goals & desires."
Current POTUS: "RIGGED ELECTION!!!111 THEY LIED WE GONNA BURN THIS MOFO DOWN!!!! #FAKENEWS #YALLARESUCKAS #INHERITANCE*****ES #NOEVIDENCE #NEPOTISMRULES #BANKRUPT4LIFE"
A 'normal' POTUS: "While we realize it appears that our opponent has won, we'd like to look into some potential issues with the vote and will bring forth evidence as discovered. Ensuring a free and fair election is the bedrock of American Democracy and we'll fully accept the final results so the country can move forward. Meanwhile, we'll work with the transition team in the event they have indeed won so as to not hamper America in her security, goals & desires."
Current POTUS: "RIGGED ELECTION!!!111 THEY LIED WE GONNA BURN THIS MOFO DOWN!!!! #FAKENEWS #YALLARESUCKAS #INHERITANCE*****ES #NOEVIDENCE #NEPOTISMRULES #BANKRUPT4LIFE"
This is small potatoes. Just let it play out. If there's any chance at unity, you're going to have to let it play out.
11-18-2020, 02:03 PM
#807
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Which is what they are doing, but some posters here believe the filing of these lawsuits is a threat to our very democracy. We have reached full circle now, since the post you jumped in on was me addressing one of those posters and pointing out that *if* the votes get tossed you should be mad at the people who made the policies that allowed the votes to be tossed and not the people who filed the lawsuits.
To believe that filing these lawsuits are a threat to democracy is laughable.
To believe that filing these lawsuits are a threat to democracy is laughable.
11-18-2020, 02:33 PM
#808
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That is core of your message. You're a bad-faith shill and nothing more.
By the way, the threat to democracy isn't the lawsuits. Lawyers have been mostly playing by the rules in court, which explains why they've been losing 1-25 so far. The real threat is in the court of public opinion, where Trump and others are casting doubts on the nation's electoral process. He doesn't care about this country. He'll let it burn to the ground and people's minds be turned to mush so long as he can stay in power.
11-18-2020, 02:48 PM
#809
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You're so bad at this. That's not what you were saying at all. You believe that because observers were standing 20 feet away instead of 6 that it should somehow nullify hundreds of thousands of legal votes. Those are the most valuable 14 feet in the history of this nation. And it's complete BS. Because even if the observers were allowed to sit in the laps of the counters, you'd be looking to have the election overturned for some other reason. The context doesn't matter to you, only the outcome.
That is core of your message. You're a bad-faith shill and nothing more.
By the way, the threat to democracy isn't the lawsuits. Lawyers have been mostly playing by the rules in court, which explains why they've been losing 1-25 so far. The real threat is in the court of public opinion, where Trump and others are casting doubts on the nation's electoral process. He doesn't care about this country. He'll let it burn to the ground and people's minds be turned to mush so long as he can stay in power.
That is core of your message. You're a bad-faith shill and nothing more.
By the way, the threat to democracy isn't the lawsuits. Lawyers have been mostly playing by the rules in court, which explains why they've been losing 1-25 so far. The real threat is in the court of public opinion, where Trump and others are casting doubts on the nation's electoral process. He doesn't care about this country. He'll let it burn to the ground and people's minds be turned to mush so long as he can stay in power.
*If* Trump prevails in court, will you accept the results of the election?
11-18-2020, 03:01 PM
#810
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Relax man, Trump's twitter tantrums don't matter in the least. Biden will be confirmed at the same date he would have anyway and a year from now we'll be talking about something else.
This is small potatoes. Just let it play out. If there's any chance at unity, you're going to have to let it play out.
This is small potatoes. Just let it play out. If there's any chance at unity, you're going to have to let it play out.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/11/form...ransition.html
This is a national security issue, and a time of vulnerability for the nation. There's no reason for Trump to obstruct the transition process other than for his own vanity.
If there's any chance at unity, it would require Trump to set aside his ego for the good of the country. Instead, he is stoking nonsensical objections to the election as well as misinformation, and all his followers are parroting this message.
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