Knobcrk1

You’re literally making stuff up, especially when you mention herd immunity. You don’t even know what your point is anymore do you? Sweden itself wasn’t seeking herd immunity in their response according to their top diplomat.

Mesabah

So what was their goal in not taking any action? It's pretty obvious that politically they would backtrack, and deny given what happened.(and not the actual virus, the absolute bat**** insane response the left went on over Swedens plan) However, going from 3 deaths a day, to 10 deaths, then back to 3 a day in two weeks, is not what I would call alarming.

Seneca Pilot

Ok, not trying to argue but you are misrepresenting things a little here.

First Act 77 specifically states that all votes, mail in or absentee must be in by 8pm on election day. The three day addition was done by a court in PA without the power to do it and it would likely lose a Supreme Court challenge. The problem with that for Trump's people is the obvious lack of numbers there to change the state. The other argument they make is that hundreds of thousands of ballots were counted without Republican poll watchers having the ability to view the ballot and the outer envelope to verify signature match, correct witness signature and address, and proper packaging of outer and inner envelopes. If this can be proven, (a big task) then the Trump people have a chance to knock out those votes.

Would this happen? Who knows. Would the country erupt into chaos? Maybe.

The takeaway is that this is not quite over, it will probably get even uglier, and I am one step closer to moving to another, less divided country where my children can grow up in a place where people aren't so ready to marginalize the other side with harsh divisive rhetoric. I didn't vote for either guy, but it is very disappointing to see people on this forum talking to each other like heartless jerks (both sides) without thinking for a minute that they might possibly be wrong. I am not talking specifically about you but the general mood of the entire political portion of the forum. The realization of just how mean spirited people can be is spotlighted here every day.

GateAgent007

I agree with you. One thing I want to add to your commentary about the nation's dialogue is this -- It's all because of Trump.

All the discord. All the infighting. He's the source of it all. He is the spark that ignites the fires of chaos in this country. For a decade now, starting with the lie of Birtherism. He drives a wedge in the heart of America for his own gain. He is always right in the middle of it.

We have norms and traditions in this country for a reason. To keep the peace and the country moving forward. The loser of the election concedes to ensure the peaceful transition of power. Trump has decided to flip the table when he lost the hand. He would rather the country burn to the ground than lose.

You want to see a real American president? George H.W. Bush had more honor and decency in his little finger than Trump does in his whole body. It's a shame how far Republicans have fallen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH_yThjhwxc

Watch this and remember what it used to be like when we were all Americans first. Maybe after Trump gets kicked to the curb, we can be so again. But if he is successful in stealing this election, then you might have to move to Malaysia after all.

Seneca Pilot

Well 73 million people don't agree with you. It's 51/47.9 and I am stuck in the middle with the rest of the 1.1% that are disillusioned with both sides. I see problems ahead. I hope I am wrong.

Lou Reed

I quick glance gives me 143 deaths in Sweden in the last week. Why the blatant lies? Oh BTW, their death count to date is 6X their Nordic neighbors. But but but

All Bizniz

It's instructive that literally all of POTUS' chances to overturn a state's result are all uphill battles, desperate, hail Mary passes.

Lawyers are bailing from the cases, and the lawsuits are either being summarily thrown out, or are being withdrawn..

It's just a pointless exercise that is doing unnecessary damage to our democracy, and electoral reputation, all to assuage one man's ego.

And the Republicans are prolonging the nation's anxiety, as many of them have privately acknowledged Biden as President-Elect, while not daring to do so in public.

Shameful.

Seneca Pilot

If it takes a couple of weeks of court battles to discourage an armed fight between both sides I am comfortable with the time. Most on the Republican side just want to see that the arguments are heard and will happily go about their lives if convinced that they had their day in court. My friends that voted Democrat have told me they are fine with the delay because they are comfortable that Biden won and like you believe he will prevail. I tend to agree but certainly won't argue with being certain the process was followed.

The throwing out of the cases and the resulting embarrassment of the Trump side is not pointless. It is a required process to convince the losing side that the fight was fair. You won't convince them all but the majority of voters on both sides just want a good life. Very few Republicans are militia or clan members just as very few Democrats are Antifa or BLM. Unfortunately it's the vocal few that get all the headlines.

GateAgent007

This strikes me as painfully naive. There is no finish line to cross where "satisfaction" will be reached. It will just be a never-ending line of meritless lawsuits until such time that the process must move forward. And Trump will scream and holler that "they're stealing the election!" Then the chaos begins. These lawsuits have only increased the pressure in the pot.

If you think these Republican lawsuits are a good faith effort to 'get to the bottom of things,' then I have some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you.

highfarfast

I am curious as to what chaos you think will begin when the lawsuits run out of time?