Fox News: surge in new cases
11-16-2020, 02:20 PM
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It is a mind bending, twilight zonish experience that one swath of American society has suddenly crawled out of the woodwork to reject and question the validity and ethics of science and our scientists, and question the scientific community's ability and commitment to policing themselves.
Weird...
Weird...
11-16-2020, 03:03 PM
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It is a mind bending, twilight zonish experience that one swath of American society has suddenly crawled out of the woodwork to reject and question the validity and ethics of science and our scientists, and question the scientific community's ability and commitment to policing themselves.
Weird...
Weird...
11-16-2020, 04:09 PM
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I read it. And the point that you were trying to make is that since the pro-mask paper was withdrawn, that means that masks don't work. I get it. It's ironic. But it doesn't prove anything other than your prowess for jumping to the wrong conclusions.
11-16-2020, 08:14 PM
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Its shocking to see the level of uneducated/unstudied/unconsidered level of numbers analysis alone in a thread that is supposedly dedicated to technically minded people. 2 months ago I did a study of death numbers in the US and at that time concluded that there were probably about 12,000 actual american deaths due to Corona.....
Using logic, reason, and science and with an interest in truth only, I have personally come to the conclusion that this Corona virus is no more infectious or lethal than an average flu. It might even be LESS SO. Using the same factors I have also concluded that masks are totally useless.
I am older. I have already had this virus. I was sick with minor flu symptoms for a few days. I have been wayyyyyy sicker in the past!! I wasn’t concerned before I got it, I wasn’t concerned while I had it and I am not concerned now. I fully expect at some point in the future I will get another cold or flu. Probably multiple times. And I will carry on with my life....as normal.
Wash your hands. THAT WORKS.
Using logic, reason, and science and with an interest in truth only, I have personally come to the conclusion that this Corona virus is no more infectious or lethal than an average flu. It might even be LESS SO. Using the same factors I have also concluded that masks are totally useless.
I am older. I have already had this virus. I was sick with minor flu symptoms for a few days. I have been wayyyyyy sicker in the past!! I wasn’t concerned before I got it, I wasn’t concerned while I had it and I am not concerned now. I fully expect at some point in the future I will get another cold or flu. Probably multiple times. And I will carry on with my life....as normal.
Wash your hands. THAT WORKS.
On the mathematical analysis you conducted, can you describe what you did with excess mortality numbers? Does your finding of 1/10 of reported deaths hold, even now that the election is over?
11-16-2020, 09:45 PM
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Anyone that's been following this virus knows by now that it doesn't hit all the areas at the same time. So you're quick to post graphs that show Sweden at a low point and claim "GREAT SUCCESS!" when in reality they're just 2 months behind the wave.
As the Zen master says, "we'll see."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2L1-TgfKb4
As the Zen master says, "we'll see."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2L1-TgfKb4
Sweden is going into partial lockdown even though everyone on here has been claiming they achieved "herd immunity" months ago. Huh. That's a head scratcher.
Read more here.
https://news.trust.org/item/20201116135516-ilta9/
11-17-2020, 03:40 AM
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Funny how fascism gets thrown around on both sides of the discussion. Trump isn't a fascist or Hitler but let's review a few things that he has done:
- continual assault on the free press
- censorship of government agencies that he didn't like
- a continual shakeup of cabinet members and agency heads that weren't favorable to him
- casting doubt about the integrity of our election process
- use of nationalist rhetoric
- claims of higher knowledge than generals, scientists and subject matter experts of all sorts
- no attempt to bridge the divide in the country and in fact often stoked it
- stoking violence in his speeches
- demonization of immigrants
- spreading of false information/continuous lying
- coddling current autocrats
Looking at these things one can make of it what they want, but to me those are fascist tendencies. Whether willful or out of a complete ignorance of competent governance is up for debate.
- continual assault on the free press
- censorship of government agencies that he didn't like
- a continual shakeup of cabinet members and agency heads that weren't favorable to him
- casting doubt about the integrity of our election process
- use of nationalist rhetoric
- claims of higher knowledge than generals, scientists and subject matter experts of all sorts
- no attempt to bridge the divide in the country and in fact often stoked it
- stoking violence in his speeches
- demonization of immigrants
- spreading of false information/continuous lying
- coddling current autocrats
Looking at these things one can make of it what they want, but to me those are fascist tendencies. Whether willful or out of a complete ignorance of competent governance is up for debate.
Obama spying on the incoming President
Obama going after a conservative journalist (James Rosen, Fox News)
Obama weaponizing the IRS to go after conservative groups
Obama essentially arming ISIS (why was Ambassador Stevens there that night, to begin with?)
“The police acted stupidly” (green lighting Antifa (think Dallas police massacre))
Coddling of the Muslim Brotherhood
I have a phone and a pen (usurping Republican Congress)
“If you like your doctor” (crafting the message to dupe people into support of the Affordable Care Act)
Separating children from their families at the border (started with Obama)
Fascist tendencies? These are just off the top of my nugget.
You write as if Trump is some kind of unique partisan, when the reality is, so is your guy. You ignore his “transgressions” while throwing around “fascism” in an effort of internet oneupism.
And don’t accuse me of “whataboutism.” I’m merely illustrating the reality of politics. After all, “elections have consequences.”
Last edited by Speed Select; 11-17-2020 at 03:58 AM.
11-17-2020, 04:49 AM
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All of velosnow's bullet points were about cataloging attacks on the American people or American institutions.
It's a significant distinction. First rule of being in a cult is protecting the cult leader.
11-17-2020, 05:16 AM
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Interesting observation: Nearly every one of Speed Select's bullet points are cataloging acts against Trump or Trump allies.
All of velosnow's bullet points were about cataloging attacks on the American people or American institutions.
It's a significant distinction. First rule of being in a cult is protecting the cult leader.
All of velosnow's bullet points were about cataloging attacks on the American people or American institutions.
It's a significant distinction. First rule of being in a cult is protecting the cult leader.
The ones that deal with Trump are in relation to spying on political opponents, are you positive that Obama only spied on Trump?
11-17-2020, 05:25 AM
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Interesting observation: Nearly every one of Speed Select's bullet points are cataloging acts against Trump or Trump allies.
All of velosnow's bullet points were about cataloging attacks on the American people or American institutions.
It's a significant distinction. First rule of being in a cult is protecting the cult leader.
All of velosnow's bullet points were about cataloging attacks on the American people or American institutions.
It's a significant distinction. First rule of being in a cult is protecting the cult leader.
“Our guy is clean” (NOT quoting the President-elect here), yours isn’t. You realize you’re a partisan hack, too, right?
You should have been a pundit on the Sunday morning shows rather than have wasted your spinmaster talents working in the airline industry.
Last edited by Speed Select; 11-17-2020 at 06:07 AM.
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