Originally Posted by Wingedbeast

Half those things are your opinion (a wrong one at that).
The others I don't see as negative.

Originally Posted by NE_Pilot

Once again, you are getting caught up in the idea that “peer review” is meaningful. Since you believe that peer reviewed studies should only be used when making public health policies, what peer reviewed study did the CDC rely on when recommending that Americans wear face coverings?

Originally Posted by NE_Pilot

I don’t think you know what peer review is. Peer review does not test hypothesis, or rerun experiments or studies. It does not see if the results can be duplicated. Peer review does not even verify that the data being used is correct.

Originally Posted by Ronaldo

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK215260/

The first paragraph describes “reproducible” as a criteria used in several fields. If you remember the “plandemic” wack job, some of her studies, including one relied on heavily, failed peer review because her work was not reproducible, later it was determined she fabricated the data.

Not all peer review involves re-analysis of the data or reproduction of the experiment, but some does. In either case peer review is a critical step that eliminates a large quantity of bogus science. In many journals, less than 50% of papers make it through peer review.

Originally Posted by BrazilBusDriver

No, it’s usually none of that, nor is it supposed to be. It’s basically a form of sanity test amongst your expert peers. All of that other stuff you’re going on about like it’s some kind of smoking gun indictment is usually up to others in your field to do, if they so choose, which is why the methodology is also published in peer-reviewed journals. You’d probably be surprised to know that I understand the process, if you cared - but i suspect you don’t. Anyway, what’s your actual point, other than “peer review sux”? Proving you went to grad school?

I don’t think you understand the point of peer review. See, I can do it, too? Doesn’t add much to the conversation without stating why you think it matters.

Originally Posted by senecacaptain

thanks

Not in dispute:

Cases climbing at alarming rate
Deaths also climbing
At 2M deaths (likely) over 12 month period, COVID death rate is 3X that of the flu (assuming 650k a year)
Hospitals nearing capacity in many areas

Originally Posted by Xtreme87

Covid has been here since December and there is evidence that it was even here in November. We are nowhere near 650k deaths. Especially since motorcycle crashes and cancer deaths are being counted as covid. Also, what proof do you have that hospitals are getting close to capacity “in many areas”? I remember MSM making those claims the last go around, I would be by those same hospitals and nothing was going on. There were even people going to emergency rooms, asking staff and there was no apocalypse. Unless you go to these hospitals and physically confirm that in fact is happening, it’s just media hype.

Originally Posted by Mesabah

No, I haven't changed my stance on masks, they have no impact on the pandemic.

Originally Posted by germanaviator

With all due respect but if you are not trolling you must be a bit dim in the head. Events such as family gatherings are where transmissions happen. I managed to fly throughout Europe including all the hot spots this last spring and Summer. Wore masks indoors where distancing was not assured. No infection. My brother comes over last month for my son's birthday and infects my wife and me. Of course no masks we're worn by any of us in the house. My brother was one of only two guests as we wanted to reduce the risk to everyone. My brother didn't know then that he was infected. He became symptomatic one day later. He then got tested.

I am not suggesting my little anecdote proves anything but it is completely in line with what the vast majority of expects are saying about transmissions. They mainly happen when people are in direct face to face contact without distancing and without masks.

Originally Posted by luke3

i spent a good amount of time in Europe this month and last. Nobody cares there anymore. Mask use was very limited until they locked down again. I noticed much more widespread mask usage in the US than the 2 european countries I visited. My parents that live in yet anothet european country said it's the same there too: mask mandates loosely followed and not enforced.