Fox News: surge in new cases
11-14-2020, 01:16 AM
#611
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You are leaving out what the man actually said. He is saying masks aren’t perfect. They aren’t going to keep you safe if you’re packed together and not practicing social distancing. He is saying they should be used, but that the wearer should not consider themselves basically immune from catching it just because they’re wearing a mask.
The other direct quotes from Olsterholm that you have conveniently left out:
https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota...out-face-masks
The other direct quotes from Olsterholm that you have conveniently left out:
https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota...out-face-masks
At the outset, I want to make several points crystal clear:
- I support the wearing of cloth face coverings (masks) by the general public.
- Stop citing CIDRAP and me as grounds to not wear masks, whether mandated or not.
- Don't, however, use the wearing of cloth face coverings as an excuse to decrease other crucial, likely more effective, protective steps, like physical distancing
- Also, don't use poorly conducted studies to support a contention that wearing cloth face coverings will drive the pandemic into the ground. But even if they reduce infection risk somewhat, wearing them can be important.
"So anyone who claims I don't think masks are important, they are just plain wrong. I do."
As for cloth masks, he said: "Again, I want to make it very clear that I support the use of cloth face coverings by the general public. I wear one myself on the limited occasions I'm out in public," he adds.
"In areas where face coverings are mandated, I expect the public to follow the mandate and wear them."
As for cloth masks, he said: "Again, I want to make it very clear that I support the use of cloth face coverings by the general public. I wear one myself on the limited occasions I'm out in public," he adds.
"In areas where face coverings are mandated, I expect the public to follow the mandate and wear them."
11-14-2020, 04:14 AM
#612
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We are part of a group that is typically educated, well read, rational, logical and deliberative, and yet, like so much of America, many have tragically fallen under the cult of personality of this POTUS.
They are oblivious, or refuse to believe, that POTUS made the deliberate decision to downplay COVID, and politicize the mask issue in the process, primarily as a re-election play.
He gambled with the health of us as Americans and lost. Sadly, in the process, way too many Americans than needed to, also lost.... their lives.
My Trumper friends, POTUS does not care about us. He cares only about himself, his ego, and his extraction from the financial hole he's in, and your strident support for him simply provides a means to his own selfish ends.
He is an accidental president who never intended to win. This whole charade that began in 2016 was simply a PR stunt, that "backfired" on him.
And the rest is history......
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11-14-2020, 04:25 AM
#613
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Agreed..
We are part of a group that is typically educated, well read, rational, logical and deliberative and yet, some have tragically fallen under the cult of personality of this POTUS.
They are oblivious, or refuse to believe, that POTUS made the deliberate decision to downplay COVID, and politicize the mask issue in the process, primarily as a re-election play.
He gambled with the health of us as Americans and lost. Sadly, in the process, way too many Americans than needed to, also lost.... their lives.
My Trumper friends, POTUS does not care about us. He cares only about himself, his ego, and his extraction from the financial hole he's in, and your strident support for him is just a means to his own selfish ends.
He is an accidental president who never intended to win. This whole charade that began in 2016 was simply a PR stunt, that "backfired" on him.
And the rest is history......
We are part of a group that is typically educated, well read, rational, logical and deliberative and yet, some have tragically fallen under the cult of personality of this POTUS.
They are oblivious, or refuse to believe, that POTUS made the deliberate decision to downplay COVID, and politicize the mask issue in the process, primarily as a re-election play.
He gambled with the health of us as Americans and lost. Sadly, in the process, way too many Americans than needed to, also lost.... their lives.
My Trumper friends, POTUS does not care about us. He cares only about himself, his ego, and his extraction from the financial hole he's in, and your strident support for him is just a means to his own selfish ends.
He is an accidental president who never intended to win. This whole charade that began in 2016 was simply a PR stunt, that "backfired" on him.
And the rest is history......
11-14-2020, 04:52 AM
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Agreed..
We are part of a group that is typically educated, well read, rational, logical and deliberative, and yet, like so much of America, many have tragically fallen under the cult of personality of this POTUS.
They are oblivious, or refuse to believe, that POTUS made the deliberate decision to downplay COVID, and politicize the mask issue in the process, primarily as a re-election play.
He gambled with the health of us as Americans and lost. Sadly, in the process, way too many Americans than needed to, also lost.... their lives.
My Trumper friends, POTUS does not care about us. He cares only about himself, his ego, and his extraction from the financial hole he's in, and your strident support for him simply provides a means to his own selfish ends.
He is an accidental president who never intended to win. This whole charade that began in 2016 was simply a PR stunt, that "backfired" on him.
And the rest is history......
We are part of a group that is typically educated, well read, rational, logical and deliberative, and yet, like so much of America, many have tragically fallen under the cult of personality of this POTUS.
They are oblivious, or refuse to believe, that POTUS made the deliberate decision to downplay COVID, and politicize the mask issue in the process, primarily as a re-election play.
He gambled with the health of us as Americans and lost. Sadly, in the process, way too many Americans than needed to, also lost.... their lives.
My Trumper friends, POTUS does not care about us. He cares only about himself, his ego, and his extraction from the financial hole he's in, and your strident support for him simply provides a means to his own selfish ends.
He is an accidental president who never intended to win. This whole charade that began in 2016 was simply a PR stunt, that "backfired" on him.
And the rest is history......
11-14-2020, 05:30 AM
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... and this would then be a direct result of the extremely poor choices of presidential candidates offered by both political parties during the 2016 presidential election, and during somewhat recent times prior. Not that this current election offered anything better, by either party. A poor product is a poor product.
11-14-2020, 08:06 AM
#616
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You are leaving out what the man actually said. He is saying masks aren’t perfect. They aren’t going to keep you safe if you’re packed together and not practicing social distancing. He is saying they should be used, but that the wearer should not consider themselves basically immune from catching it just because they’re wearing a mask.
The other direct quotes from Olsterholm that you have conveniently left out:
https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota...out-face-masks
The other direct quotes from Olsterholm that you have conveniently left out:
https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota...out-face-masks
11-14-2020, 08:35 AM
#617
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The problem is that we’ve gotten in a national mood where we’d rather see the other guy lose than share a win with him. THAT, not any incipient desire for fascism, is the problem.
11-14-2020, 09:34 AM
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11-14-2020, 09:53 AM
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You are being pendantic.
Mesabah wants to use a non-peer reviewed paper from Medrxiv as some kind of definitive proof that the public health recommendations/policies from the CDC and every other civilized country’s health department are somehow not valid.
For that purpose, Medrxiv is self-admittedly not a suitable source. So let’s just say it’s not suitable rather than not reliable. For some obscure researchers doing something other than what we are discussing (public health policies), perhaps it’s a “reliable” source.
Mesabah wants to use a non-peer reviewed paper from Medrxiv as some kind of definitive proof that the public health recommendations/policies from the CDC and every other civilized country’s health department are somehow not valid.
For that purpose, Medrxiv is self-admittedly not a suitable source. So let’s just say it’s not suitable rather than not reliable. For some obscure researchers doing something other than what we are discussing (public health policies), perhaps it’s a “reliable” source.
11-14-2020, 10:01 AM
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I love how everything Trump circles back to Hitler. So predictable.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
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