Fox News: surge in new cases
11-13-2020, 04:58 AM
#601
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Mesabah wants to use a non-peer reviewed paper from Medrxiv as some kind of definitive proof that the public health recommendations/policies from the CDC and every other civilized country’s health department are somehow not valid.
For that purpose, Medrxiv is self-admittedly not a suitable source. So let’s just say it’s not suitable rather than not reliable. For some obscure researchers doing something other than what we are discussing (public health policies), perhaps it’s a “reliable” source.
11-13-2020, 07:09 AM
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You are being pendantic.
Mesabah wants to use a non-peer reviewed paper from Medrxiv as some kind of definitive proof that the public health recommendations/policies from the CDC and every other civilized country’s health department are somehow not valid.
For that purpose, Medrxiv is self-admittedly not a suitable source. So let’s just say it’s not suitable rather than not reliable. For some obscure researchers doing something other than what we are discussing (public health policies), perhaps it’s a “reliable” source.
Mesabah wants to use a non-peer reviewed paper from Medrxiv as some kind of definitive proof that the public health recommendations/policies from the CDC and every other civilized country’s health department are somehow not valid.
For that purpose, Medrxiv is self-admittedly not a suitable source. So let’s just say it’s not suitable rather than not reliable. For some obscure researchers doing something other than what we are discussing (public health policies), perhaps it’s a “reliable” source.
11-13-2020, 07:35 AM
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Masked countries? I bet we have the highest number of unmasked people for a masked country ... it might be contrary to medical advice or common sense but it’s all about individual rights. Went into Cabelas yesterday ... about 80% of the customers were exercising their rights ... morons in my opinion.
With all due respect but if you are not trolling you must be a bit dim in the head. Events such as family gatherings are where transmissions happen. I managed to fly throughout Europe including all the hot spots this last spring and Summer. Wore masks indoors where distancing was not assured. No infection. My brother comes over last month for my son's birthday and infects my wife and me. Of course no masks we're worn by any of us in the house. My brother was one of only two guests as we wanted to reduce the risk to everyone. My brother didn't know then that he was infected. He became symptomatic one day later. He then got tested.
I am not suggesting my little anecdote proves anything but it is completely in line with what the vast majority of expects are saying about transmissions. They mainly happen when people are in direct face to face contact without distancing and without masks.
I am not suggesting my little anecdote proves anything but it is completely in line with what the vast majority of expects are saying about transmissions. They mainly happen when people are in direct face to face contact without distancing and without masks.
11-13-2020, 08:13 AM
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If you ever want to know the exact wrong thing to do in the pandemic, just read Mesabah. He is Dunning-Kruger personified, and he will deliver conspiracy theories and falsehoods with 100% confidence. He's been wrong on nearly every issue since this pandemic started. Who knows, maybe all the Hydroxychloroquine he took in April melted his brain.
His consistency is only rivaled by his ineptitude.
His consistency is only rivaled by his ineptitude.
11-13-2020, 12:59 PM
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i spent a good amount of time in Europe this month and last. Nobody cares there anymore. Mask use was very limited until they locked down again. I noticed much more widespread mask usage in the US than the 2 european countries I visited. My parents that live in yet anothet european country said it's the same there too: mask mandates loosely followed and not enforced.
11-13-2020, 08:37 PM
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Massive study of mask mandates, 1000+ counties.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....21.20208728v2
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....21.20208728v2
11-13-2020, 10:20 PM
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Not sure why some of you guys say stuff like this, and then never back it up. That is not at all what Olsterholm said:
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...nting-covid-19
https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota...out-face-masks
https://kstp.com/news/u-of-ms-top-in...-2020/5802799/
11-13-2020, 11:08 PM
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Not sure why some of you guys say stuff like this, and then never back it up. That is not at all what Olsterholm said:
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...nting-covid-19
https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota...out-face-masks
https://kstp.com/news/u-of-ms-top-in...-2020/5802799/
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-pers...nting-covid-19
https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota...out-face-masks
https://kstp.com/news/u-of-ms-top-in...-2020/5802799/
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/...ecial-ep-masks
Here are some direct quotes:
Never before in my 45 year career have I seen such a far-reaching public recommendation issued by any governmental agency without a single source of data or information to support it. This is an extremely worrisome precedent of implementing policies not based on science-based data or why they were issued without such data.
I believe this cloth mask recommendation situation represented the other low point in CDC’s response to COVID-19 with the other being the failed testing situation.
Frankly, I believe that this issue of CDC recommending the use of cloth masks without any substantial scientific evidence that they provide such protection,
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