furloughfuntime

Correlation is not causation, and while a dip in the severity of the pandemic did coincide with warmer weather, that more likely has to do with the situations people placed themselves in, ie, spending more time outside than inside. The virus itself was largely unaffected and remained uncontrolled in the US despite the credible warnings of public health officials of an upswing in the Fall/Winter.

Everything I posted can be substantiated. If the facts don't align with your feelings, I don't know what to tell you. I'm perfectly receptive to honest, good faith, and fact-based debate, but if that means pretending that an argument based on nonsense and revisionist history has to be treated as legitimate, then that's where we differ.

furloughfuntime

Comparing the surge in other countries, who have kept cases relatively low, to the ongoing high cases in the US is disingenuous.

Other countries have been successful. Look at South Korea, Japan, Germany, New Zealand, etc. I refuse to believe that we couldn't have been the best in the world at managing this crisis. I think America is the greatest country in the world, and we're perfectly capable of living up to that status. Just because you're willing to settle for mediocrity on the world stage because you like the president doesn't mean the rest of the country is

Mesabah

Mask wearing rate by country.

Knobcrk1

No, this has nothing to do with health officials. It’s almost Nov and there’s still talk of what they said back in early April when nobody knew what was going on. They’ve been saying to wear masks every single day since then. Even then they weren’t talking about the efficacy, they were concerned about lack of masks available for first line responders. What this really has to do with is those areas of the country that think being told what to do goes against their freedoms. They, for whatever reason, can’t differentiate between actual tyranny vs wearing a damn mask in a pandemic. Pretty embarrassing the US. Those states that refused to wear masks and acknowledge the pandemic caused the huge surges early summer. It didn’t have to be like that. The other states managed to keep the rates low. NY basically had almost negligible cases until the predicted surge in fall started. Again pretty embarrassing response by the US.

Knobcrk1

What are you smoking? He never had a plan at all. The officials were left to fend for themselves. There was no national policy on anything other than starting an anti mask movement so he could hold on to his base. He did absolutely nothing and worse lied about it all. Did you look at cases in NY since April? They’re almost zero compared to the red states. Now you suddenly care about Covid deaths?

BobZ

Well if in NY you kill all the vulnerable populations in the first few months.....it would reasonably be expected deaths after that would fall significantly. Lol

All Bizniz

That's funny.. It's BS, but funny.. lol

Mesabah

https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/press-r...navirus-threat
Look at the date. I'm not going to call you a liar, because obviously the media has gaslighted you.

Seneca Pilot

Wasting your time. I think he is a Pelosi campaign volunteer.

Doesn't care or worse doesn't understand that health policy is set and carried out at the state level. The federal level is only guidance and support, not actual policy. See NY forcing nursing homes to accept infected patients. Not a federal policy but a state one.

All Bizniz

C'mon man! (In my best Biden voice lol)

​​​​​We're now in the predictable, long warned about, fall surge period. Prior to that, NY did have some of the lowest numbers. But you knew that, didn't you?