Fox News: surge in new cases
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In a literal sense, no he is not. Do you know what literal means?
We are being advised to mask up between bites for cripes sakes, as in masking immediately immediately immediately (in the words of Mel Brooks.)
This clearly shows me folks are out to defend the home team, not engage in the larger discourse.
We are being advised to mask up between bites for cripes sakes, as in masking immediately immediately immediately (in the words of Mel Brooks.)
This clearly shows me folks are out to defend the home team, not engage in the larger discourse.
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No real question the last few months have seen a rather massive upsurge in the identification of new infections
![](https://i.ibb.co/hyh61Yx/EE17203-D-4-A65-4-E0-B-B7-B2-421-B5359-D16-C.jpg)
and no real question that has been accompanied by a real but in comparison fairly modest increase in average daily deaths for the last couple of weeks.
![](https://i.ibb.co/Tt1148Q/C3-B08-BD7-1-AAC-427-D-90-D2-C05-FFAA1-C4-E2.jpg)
![](https://i.ibb.co/fxQdt7t/25-F3-E7-BF-37-D3-460-E-A4-EA-F72-AB50940-B3.jpg)
clearly, the case fatality rate is going down even as the numbers go up.
![](https://i.ibb.co/hyh61Yx/EE17203-D-4-A65-4-E0-B-B7-B2-421-B5359-D16-C.jpg)
and no real question that has been accompanied by a real but in comparison fairly modest increase in average daily deaths for the last couple of weeks.
![](https://i.ibb.co/Tt1148Q/C3-B08-BD7-1-AAC-427-D-90-D2-C05-FFAA1-C4-E2.jpg)
![](https://i.ibb.co/fxQdt7t/25-F3-E7-BF-37-D3-460-E-A4-EA-F72-AB50940-B3.jpg)
clearly, the case fatality rate is going down even as the numbers go up.
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In a literal sense, no he is not. Do you know what literal means?
We are being advised to mask up between bites for cripes sakes, as in masking immediately immediately immediately (in the words of Mel Brooks.)
This clearly shows me folks are out to defend the home team, not engage in the larger discourse.
We are being advised to mask up between bites for cripes sakes, as in masking immediately immediately immediately (in the words of Mel Brooks.)
This clearly shows me folks are out to defend the home team, not engage in the larger discourse.
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Guys like Knob can only think what they are told to think. Fauci could be peeing on Knob and tell him it’s raining and Knob would tell you that it was rain. You would ask why it smelled like urine, and he’d tell you it was because of climate change. If you were the least bit skeptical, he would call you a “science” denier.
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Guys like Knob can only think what they are told to think. Fauci could be peeing on Knob and tell him it’s raining and Knob would tell you that it was rain. You would ask why it smelled like urine, and he’d tell you it was because of climate change. If you were the least bit skeptical, he would call you a “science” denier.
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It is amazing how many people are willing to drive off the cliff in the clown car because of their shared admiration of a man who lacks a moral compass and, single-handedly through his actions and ideology, has done more in four years to harm our nation's long established norms and institutions, than anyone could have ever done in the last two hundred.
It was a deliberate, self-serving political calculation (re-election prospect) to not heed the warnings about the virus, and to misinform the American people with pronouncements contrary to what he himself admittedly believed.
The CDC has been constantly undermined, its reputation damaged in the process, which consequently has made the job of our nation's local and state public health institutions of protecting its citizens, infinitely harder.
How the hell did wearing a mask become so political?!! After all, it is and was already a part of the long established practice and protocol of dealing with this type of virus. We are the laughing stock of a world, who have largely adopted this very simple change in behavior without it being a source of such huge controversy.
But the cracks to this facade thankfully, are starting to appear and hiding from the truth, and ignoring the reality will inevitably have its consequences.
The clown car passengers stridently claim, like the clown, that the increase in cases is due to increased testing, not due to an actual increase in numbers. Well, now the Asst Secretary of Health has finally acknowledged that cases are indeed increasing, even with more testing factored in.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.kstp.com/articles/white-house-coronavirus-covid-19-task-force-member-admiral-brett-giroir-says-cases-deaths-up-in-united-states-5907999.html
These same passengers, following their dear leader, dismiss the notion that masks are effective in slowing the spread of the disease. Well, the CDC Director in September, after finally growing a big enough pair, pointedly stated in a press conference that the wearing of mask by everyone is an important tool in the war against COVID-19.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/administration/516686-cdc-director-says-masks-more-guaranteed-to-work-than-a-vaccine%3famp
And just yesterday Russia, in a move that no doubt threw the clown under the bus, instituted a national mask mandate for their country!!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/russia-issues-national-mask-mandate-after-coronavirus-cases-surge%3famp
Like most people, I am over the lock downs, and do not want that to ever be an option again. We all avoid that by making the conscientious effort to social distance, wear a mask and, wash our hands, while we wait for a vaccine.
It was a deliberate, self-serving political calculation (re-election prospect) to not heed the warnings about the virus, and to misinform the American people with pronouncements contrary to what he himself admittedly believed.
The CDC has been constantly undermined, its reputation damaged in the process, which consequently has made the job of our nation's local and state public health institutions of protecting its citizens, infinitely harder.
How the hell did wearing a mask become so political?!! After all, it is and was already a part of the long established practice and protocol of dealing with this type of virus. We are the laughing stock of a world, who have largely adopted this very simple change in behavior without it being a source of such huge controversy.
But the cracks to this facade thankfully, are starting to appear and hiding from the truth, and ignoring the reality will inevitably have its consequences.
The clown car passengers stridently claim, like the clown, that the increase in cases is due to increased testing, not due to an actual increase in numbers. Well, now the Asst Secretary of Health has finally acknowledged that cases are indeed increasing, even with more testing factored in.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.kstp.com/articles/white-house-coronavirus-covid-19-task-force-member-admiral-brett-giroir-says-cases-deaths-up-in-united-states-5907999.html
These same passengers, following their dear leader, dismiss the notion that masks are effective in slowing the spread of the disease. Well, the CDC Director in September, after finally growing a big enough pair, pointedly stated in a press conference that the wearing of mask by everyone is an important tool in the war against COVID-19.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/administration/516686-cdc-director-says-masks-more-guaranteed-to-work-than-a-vaccine%3famp
And just yesterday Russia, in a move that no doubt threw the clown under the bus, instituted a national mask mandate for their country!!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/russia-issues-national-mask-mandate-after-coronavirus-cases-surge%3famp
Like most people, I am over the lock downs, and do not want that to ever be an option again. We all avoid that by making the conscientious effort to social distance, wear a mask and, wash our hands, while we wait for a vaccine.
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It is amazing how many people are willing to drive off the cliff in the clown car because of their shared admiration of a man who lacks a moral compass and single-handedly through his actions and ideology, has done more in four years to harm our nation's long established institutions and norms, than anyone could have ever done in the last two hundred.
It was a deliberate, self-serving political calculation (re-election prospect) to not heed the warnings about the virus, and to misinformed the American people with pronouncements contrary to what he himself admittedly believed.
The CDC has been constantly undermined, its reputation damaged in the process, which consequently has made the job of our nation's local and state public health institutions of protecting its citizens, infinitely harder.
How the hell did wearing a mask become so political?!! After all, it is and was already a part of the long established practice and protocol of dealing with this type of virus. We are the laughing stock of a world, who have largely adopted this very simple change in behavior without it being a source of such huge controversy.
But the cracks to this facade thankfully, are starting to appear...
The clown car passengers stridently claim, like the clown, that the increase in cases is due to increased testing, not due to an actual increase in numbers. Well, now the Asst Secretary of Health has finally acknowledged that cases are indeed increasing, even with more testing factored in.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.kst...s-5907999.html
These same passengers, following their dear leader, dismiss the notion that masks are effective in slowing the spread of the disease. Well, the CDC Director in September, after finally growing a big enough pair, pointedly stated in a press conference that the wearing of mask by everyone is an important tool in the war against COVID-19.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill...-vaccine%3famp
And just yesterday Russia, in a move that no doubt threw the clown under the bus, instituted a national mask mandate for their country!!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.voa...es-surge%3famp
Like most people, I am over the lock downs, and do not want that to ever be an option again. We all avoid that by making the conscientious effort to social distance, wear a mask and, wash our hands, while we wait for a vaccine.
It was a deliberate, self-serving political calculation (re-election prospect) to not heed the warnings about the virus, and to misinformed the American people with pronouncements contrary to what he himself admittedly believed.
The CDC has been constantly undermined, its reputation damaged in the process, which consequently has made the job of our nation's local and state public health institutions of protecting its citizens, infinitely harder.
How the hell did wearing a mask become so political?!! After all, it is and was already a part of the long established practice and protocol of dealing with this type of virus. We are the laughing stock of a world, who have largely adopted this very simple change in behavior without it being a source of such huge controversy.
But the cracks to this facade thankfully, are starting to appear...
The clown car passengers stridently claim, like the clown, that the increase in cases is due to increased testing, not due to an actual increase in numbers. Well, now the Asst Secretary of Health has finally acknowledged that cases are indeed increasing, even with more testing factored in.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.kst...s-5907999.html
These same passengers, following their dear leader, dismiss the notion that masks are effective in slowing the spread of the disease. Well, the CDC Director in September, after finally growing a big enough pair, pointedly stated in a press conference that the wearing of mask by everyone is an important tool in the war against COVID-19.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill...-vaccine%3famp
And just yesterday Russia, in a move that no doubt threw the clown under the bus, instituted a national mask mandate for their country!!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.voa...es-surge%3famp
Like most people, I am over the lock downs, and do not want that to ever be an option again. We all avoid that by making the conscientious effort to social distance, wear a mask and, wash our hands, while we wait for a vaccine.
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It is amazing how many people are willing to drive off the cliff in the clown car because of their shared admiration of a man who lacks a moral compass and, single-handedly through his actions and ideology, has done more in four years to harm our nation's long established norms and institutions, than anyone could have ever done in the last two hundred.
It was a deliberate, self-serving political calculation (re-election prospect) to not heed the warnings about the virus, and to misinform the American people with pronouncements contrary to what he himself admittedly believed.
The CDC has been constantly undermined, its reputation damaged in the process, which consequently has made the job of our nation's local and state public health institutions of protecting its citizens, infinitely harder.
How the hell did wearing a mask become so political?!! After all, it is and was already a part of the long established practice and protocol of dealing with this type of virus. We are the laughing stock of a world, who have largely adopted this very simple change in behavior without it being a source of such huge controversy.
But the cracks to this facade thankfully, are starting to appear and hiding from the truth, and ignoring the reality will inevitably have its consequences.
The clown car passengers stridently claim, like the clown, that the increase in cases is due to increased testing, not due to an actual increase in numbers. Well, now the Asst Secretary of Health has finally acknowledged that cases are indeed increasing, even with more testing factored in.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.kstp.com/articles/white-house-coronavirus-covid-19-task-force-member-admiral-brett-giroir-says-cases-deaths-up-in-united-states-5907999.html
These same passengers, following their dear leader, dismiss the notion that masks are effective in slowing the spread of the disease. Well, the CDC Director in September, after finally growing a big enough pair, pointedly stated in a press conference that the wearing of mask by everyone is an important tool in the war against COVID-19.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/administration/516686-cdc-director-says-masks-more-guaranteed-to-work-than-a-vaccine%3famp
And just yesterday Russia, in a move that no doubt threw the clown under the bus, instituted a national mask mandate for their country!!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/russia-issues-national-mask-mandate-after-coronavirus-cases-surge%3famp
Like most people, I am over the lock downs, and do not want that to ever be an option again. We all avoid that by making the conscientious effort to social distance, wear a mask and, wash our hands, while we wait for a vaccine.
It was a deliberate, self-serving political calculation (re-election prospect) to not heed the warnings about the virus, and to misinform the American people with pronouncements contrary to what he himself admittedly believed.
The CDC has been constantly undermined, its reputation damaged in the process, which consequently has made the job of our nation's local and state public health institutions of protecting its citizens, infinitely harder.
How the hell did wearing a mask become so political?!! After all, it is and was already a part of the long established practice and protocol of dealing with this type of virus. We are the laughing stock of a world, who have largely adopted this very simple change in behavior without it being a source of such huge controversy.
But the cracks to this facade thankfully, are starting to appear and hiding from the truth, and ignoring the reality will inevitably have its consequences.
The clown car passengers stridently claim, like the clown, that the increase in cases is due to increased testing, not due to an actual increase in numbers. Well, now the Asst Secretary of Health has finally acknowledged that cases are indeed increasing, even with more testing factored in.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.kstp.com/articles/white-house-coronavirus-covid-19-task-force-member-admiral-brett-giroir-says-cases-deaths-up-in-united-states-5907999.html
These same passengers, following their dear leader, dismiss the notion that masks are effective in slowing the spread of the disease. Well, the CDC Director in September, after finally growing a big enough pair, pointedly stated in a press conference that the wearing of mask by everyone is an important tool in the war against COVID-19.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/administration/516686-cdc-director-says-masks-more-guaranteed-to-work-than-a-vaccine%3famp
And just yesterday Russia, in a move that no doubt threw the clown under the bus, instituted a national mask mandate for their country!!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/russia-issues-national-mask-mandate-after-coronavirus-cases-surge%3famp
Like most people, I am over the lock downs, and do not want that to ever be an option again. We all avoid that by making the conscientious effort to social distance, wear a mask and, wash our hands, while we wait for a vaccine.
My.
God.
To the bolded, if thats the case, what was the reaction from the surgeon General and CDC initially?
What was the reaction to shutting down chinese travel?
Apparently youve missed the pictures and videos of the mask czars ignoring their own advice/mandates. How do you not know all these things unless you are only watching your own chosen side of the media?? Seriously how?
Lastly mask wearing is not nearly as universally accepted followed or governmentally forced as you absolutely suggest.
Wow.
(I wear the mask near other people by the way.)
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It is amazing how many people are willing to drive off the cliff in the clown car because of their shared admiration of a man who lacks a moral compass and, single-handedly through his actions and ideology, has done more in four years to harm our nation's long established norms and institutions, than anyone could have ever done in the last two hundred.
It was a deliberate, self-serving political calculation (re-election prospect) to not heed the warnings about the virus, and to misinform the American people with pronouncements contrary to what he himself admittedly believed.
The CDC has been constantly undermined, its reputation damaged in the process, which consequently has made the job of our nation's local and state public health institutions of protecting its citizens, infinitely harder.
How the hell did wearing a mask become so political?!! After all, it is and was already a part of the long established practice and protocol of dealing with this type of virus. We are the laughing stock of a world, who have largely adopted this very simple change in behavior without it being a source of such huge controversy.
But the cracks to this facade thankfully, are starting to appear and hiding from the truth, and ignoring the reality will inevitably have its consequences.
The clown car passengers stridently claim, like the clown, that the increase in cases is due to increased testing, not due to an actual increase in numbers. Well, now the Asst Secretary of Health has finally acknowledged that cases are indeed increasing, even with more testing factored in.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.kst...s-5907999.html
These same passengers, following their dear leader, dismiss the notion that masks are effective in slowing the spread of the disease. Well, the CDC Director in September, after finally growing a big enough pair, pointedly stated in a press conference that the wearing of mask by everyone is an important tool in the war against COVID-19.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill...-vaccine%3famp
And just yesterday Russia, in a move that no doubt threw the clown under the bus, instituted a national mask mandate for their country!!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.voa...es-surge%3famp
Like most people, I am over the lock downs, and do not want that to ever be an option again. We all avoid that by making the conscientious effort to social distance, wear a mask and, wash our hands, while we wait for a vaccine.
It was a deliberate, self-serving political calculation (re-election prospect) to not heed the warnings about the virus, and to misinform the American people with pronouncements contrary to what he himself admittedly believed.
The CDC has been constantly undermined, its reputation damaged in the process, which consequently has made the job of our nation's local and state public health institutions of protecting its citizens, infinitely harder.
How the hell did wearing a mask become so political?!! After all, it is and was already a part of the long established practice and protocol of dealing with this type of virus. We are the laughing stock of a world, who have largely adopted this very simple change in behavior without it being a source of such huge controversy.
But the cracks to this facade thankfully, are starting to appear and hiding from the truth, and ignoring the reality will inevitably have its consequences.
The clown car passengers stridently claim, like the clown, that the increase in cases is due to increased testing, not due to an actual increase in numbers. Well, now the Asst Secretary of Health has finally acknowledged that cases are indeed increasing, even with more testing factored in.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.kst...s-5907999.html
These same passengers, following their dear leader, dismiss the notion that masks are effective in slowing the spread of the disease. Well, the CDC Director in September, after finally growing a big enough pair, pointedly stated in a press conference that the wearing of mask by everyone is an important tool in the war against COVID-19.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill...-vaccine%3famp
And just yesterday Russia, in a move that no doubt threw the clown under the bus, instituted a national mask mandate for their country!!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.voa...es-surge%3famp
Like most people, I am over the lock downs, and do not want that to ever be an option again. We all avoid that by making the conscientious effort to social distance, wear a mask and, wash our hands, while we wait for a vaccine.
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