Fox News: surge in new cases
10-21-2020, 03:24 PM
#121
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1. We are well over two weeks from when the numbers started to go up, which was way back in early September. TYPICALLY DEATHS - if they ARE going to happen - do so in the first 10-14 days after diagnosis.
2. And that “last dot”? Seriously, do you think there isn’t that much variance in the data? For that matter, the sawtooth weekly pattern in both the new cases and the deaths... Do you really believe that is real, that is that COVID deaths sort of take the weekend off?
The point is, we are at least five weeks out from the increase in cases, without any sort of commensurate increase in deaths. Whether that is truly better outcomes or just more testing being available for identifying more mild or asymptomatic cases, well, that I can’t tell you.
I can tell you viruses don’t take the weekend off though.
10-22-2020, 07:29 AM
#122
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Except:
1. We are well over two weeks from when the numbers started to go up, which was way back in early September. TYPICALLY DEATHS - if they ARE going to happen - do so in the first 10-14 days after diagnosis.
2. And that “last dot”? Seriously, do you think there isn’t that much variance in the data? For that matter, the sawtooth weekly pattern in both the new cases and the deaths... Do you really believe that is real, that is that COVID deaths sort of take the weekend off?
The point is, we are at least five weeks out from the increase in cases, without any sort of commensurate increase in deaths. Whether that is truly better outcomes or just more testing being available for identifying more mild or asymptomatic cases, well, that I can’t tell you.
I can tell you viruses don’t take the weekend off though.
1. We are well over two weeks from when the numbers started to go up, which was way back in early September. TYPICALLY DEATHS - if they ARE going to happen - do so in the first 10-14 days after diagnosis.
2. And that “last dot”? Seriously, do you think there isn’t that much variance in the data? For that matter, the sawtooth weekly pattern in both the new cases and the deaths... Do you really believe that is real, that is that COVID deaths sort of take the weekend off?
The point is, we are at least five weeks out from the increase in cases, without any sort of commensurate increase in deaths. Whether that is truly better outcomes or just more testing being available for identifying more mild or asymptomatic cases, well, that I can’t tell you.
I can tell you viruses don’t take the weekend off though.
Thinking about why such a delay in deaths is IMO very important. Looking at it I see college and school age kids getting it and not seeing substantial hospitalization rates, but continued transmission to second, third, and fourth vectors where the age is in older family, friends, and community spread. Thus the longer than 10-14 day increase in daily deaths.
My kids are school aged and we went virtual this year. We know 2 families (3 people) personally now that have had their school aged kids pick up the virus and then pass it on to grandpa and grandma. Unfortunately 2/3 of those are now gone they all were older (70 plus) but one guy was an avid tennis player the other still farmed and was a hard working guy. They died. The wife of the farmer is still in the hospital and is doing better.
This above example shows merit in my theory that cases won’t necessarily reflect the death rate at the 10-14 day metric as the kids spread the virus to the grandparents. The first vectors were at little risk of death, but those they spread it to were higher risk due to age, and possible other issues that I would not have knowledge of.
It’s hard to stay diligent when people are missing family and friends and have been for so long. Grandma and grandma are less likely to wear a mask around the grandkids. The families that I know above that were tragically altered had gotten together because they had missed each other so badly.
10-22-2020, 08:19 AM
#123
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Yesterday WI had the highest daily deaths since the pandemic started. The state has seen the case numbers increase drastically since schools reopened.
Thinking about why such a delay in deaths is IMO very important. Looking at it I see college and school age kids getting it and not seeing substantial hospitalization rates, but continued transmission to second, third, and fourth vectors where the age is in older family, friends, and community spread. Thus the longer than 10-14 day increase in daily deaths.
My kids are school aged and we went virtual this year. We know 2 families (3 people) personally now that have had their school aged kids pick up the virus and then pass it on to grandpa and grandma. Unfortunately 2/3 of those are now gone they all were older (70 plus) but one guy was an avid tennis player the other still farmed and was a hard working guy. They died. The wife of the farmer is still in the hospital and is doing better.
This above example shows merit in my theory that cases won’t necessarily reflect the death rate at the 10-14 day metric as the kids spread the virus to the grandparents. The first vectors were at little risk of death, but those they spread it to were higher risk due to age, and possible other issues that I would not have knowledge of.
It’s hard to stay diligent when people are missing family and friends and have been for so long. Grandma and grandma are less likely to wear a mask around the grandkids. The families that I know above that were tragically altered had gotten together because they had missed each other so badly.
Thinking about why such a delay in deaths is IMO very important. Looking at it I see college and school age kids getting it and not seeing substantial hospitalization rates, but continued transmission to second, third, and fourth vectors where the age is in older family, friends, and community spread. Thus the longer than 10-14 day increase in daily deaths.
My kids are school aged and we went virtual this year. We know 2 families (3 people) personally now that have had their school aged kids pick up the virus and then pass it on to grandpa and grandma. Unfortunately 2/3 of those are now gone they all were older (70 plus) but one guy was an avid tennis player the other still farmed and was a hard working guy. They died. The wife of the farmer is still in the hospital and is doing better.
This above example shows merit in my theory that cases won’t necessarily reflect the death rate at the 10-14 day metric as the kids spread the virus to the grandparents. The first vectors were at little risk of death, but those they spread it to were higher risk due to age, and possible other issues that I would not have knowledge of.
It’s hard to stay diligent when people are missing family and friends and have been for so long. Grandma and grandma are less likely to wear a mask around the grandkids. The families that I know above that were tragically altered had gotten together because they had missed each other so badly.
Total deaths from covid in WI: 1700
99.1% of people that have contracted covid in WI have lived.
2019 WI flu cases: 36000
2019 WI flu deaths: 183
99.5% of people contracting the flu in WI in 2019 lived.
Keep living in fear.
Edit: the 2017-18 flu season in WI saw 379 flu deaths, more than double normal which would bring the fatality rate ABOVE COVID. Did you "go virtual" in that terrible terrible dangerous flu season? I'll check back for your answer.
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10-22-2020, 08:36 AM
#124
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and yes, based upon today’s figures we have had about a 60% increase in the seven day average of new cases over the past six weeks with about a 7% increase in daily deaths.
clearly we are either capturing more mild/asymptomatic cases, dealing with a less virulent strain, or giving better treatment, because that Is a huge drop in the case-fatality rate.
and yes, based upon today’s figures we have had about a 60% increase in the seven day average of new cases over the past six weeks with about a 7% increase in daily deaths.
clearly we are either capturing more mild/asymptomatic cases, dealing with a less virulent strain, or giving better treatment, because that Is a huge drop in the case-fatality rate.
10-22-2020, 10:15 AM
#125
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Posts: 4,116
Still watching
and yes, based upon today’s figures we have had about a 60% increase in the seven day average of new cases over the past six weeks with about a 7% increase in daily deaths.
clearly we are either capturing more mild/asymptomatic cases, dealing with a less virulent strain, or giving better treatment, because that Is a huge drop in the case-fatality rate.
and yes, based upon today’s figures we have had about a 60% increase in the seven day average of new cases over the past six weeks with about a 7% increase in daily deaths.
clearly we are either capturing more mild/asymptomatic cases, dealing with a less virulent strain, or giving better treatment, because that Is a huge drop in the case-fatality rate.
10-22-2020, 10:24 AM
#126
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Joined APC: Aug 2015
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Total covid cases in WI: 192,000
Total deaths from covid in WI: 1700
99.1% of people that have contracted covid in WI have lived.
2019 WI flu cases: 36000
2019 WI flu deaths: 183
99.5% of people contracting the flu in WI in 2019 lived.
Keep living in fear.
Edit: the 2017-18 flu season in WI saw 379 flu deaths, more than double normal which would bring the fatality rate ABOVE COVID. Did you "go virtual" in that terrible terrible dangerous flu season? I'll check back for your answer.
Total deaths from covid in WI: 1700
99.1% of people that have contracted covid in WI have lived.
2019 WI flu cases: 36000
2019 WI flu deaths: 183
99.5% of people contracting the flu in WI in 2019 lived.
Keep living in fear.
Edit: the 2017-18 flu season in WI saw 379 flu deaths, more than double normal which would bring the fatality rate ABOVE COVID. Did you "go virtual" in that terrible terrible dangerous flu season? I'll check back for your answer.
WI hospitals are reaching capacity and the state is seeking traveling healthcare workers to help cover the demand and reduced workforce due to the pandemic. WI opened a field hospital for additional COVID19 patients because hospitals are reaching capacity.
Keep denying a pandemic it’s working so well.
10-22-2020, 10:31 AM
#127
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Posts: 1,063
Not living in fear at all, just being more responsible than some others during a pandemic.
WI hospitals are reaching capacity and the state is seeking traveling healthcare workers to help cover the demand and reduced workforce due to the pandemic. WI opened a field hospital for additional COVID19 patients because hospitals are reaching capacity.
Keep denying a pandemic it’s working so well.
WI hospitals are reaching capacity and the state is seeking traveling healthcare workers to help cover the demand and reduced workforce due to the pandemic. WI opened a field hospital for additional COVID19 patients because hospitals are reaching capacity.
Keep denying a pandemic it’s working so well.
10-22-2020, 10:33 AM
#128
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,063
Not living in fear at all, just being more responsible than some others during a pandemic.
WI hospitals are reaching capacity and the state is seeking traveling healthcare workers to help cover the demand and reduced workforce due to the pandemic. WI opened a field hospital for additional COVID19 patients because hospitals are reaching capacity.
Keep denying a pandemic it’s working so well.
WI hospitals are reaching capacity and the state is seeking traveling healthcare workers to help cover the demand and reduced workforce due to the pandemic. WI opened a field hospital for additional COVID19 patients because hospitals are reaching capacity.
Keep denying a pandemic it’s working so well.
10-22-2020, 10:36 AM
#129
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 4,116
Not living in fear at all, just being more responsible than some others during a pandemic.
WI hospitals are reaching capacity and the state is seeking traveling healthcare workers to help cover the demand and reduced workforce due to the pandemic. WI opened a field hospital for additional COVID19 patients because hospitals are reaching capacity.
Keep denying a pandemic it’s working so well.
WI hospitals are reaching capacity and the state is seeking traveling healthcare workers to help cover the demand and reduced workforce due to the pandemic. WI opened a field hospital for additional COVID19 patients because hospitals are reaching capacity.
Keep denying a pandemic it’s working so well.
Virtue signaling nonsense.
Other than locking myself in a box it is hard to imagine i cud have been 'more responsible'......and I STILL got it.
10-22-2020, 12:11 PM
#130
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Joined APC: Aug 2015
Position: Underpaid, LCC
Posts: 273
Total covid cases in WI: 192,000
Total deaths from covid in WI: 1700
99.1% of people that have contracted covid in WI have lived.
2019 WI flu cases: 36000
2019 WI flu deaths: 183
99.5% of people contracting the flu in WI in 2019 lived.
Keep living in fear.
Edit: the 2017-18 flu season in WI saw 379 flu deaths, more than double normal which would bring the fatality rate ABOVE COVID. Did you "go virtual" in that terrible terrible dangerous flu season? I'll check back for your answer.
Total deaths from covid in WI: 1700
99.1% of people that have contracted covid in WI have lived.
2019 WI flu cases: 36000
2019 WI flu deaths: 183
99.5% of people contracting the flu in WI in 2019 lived.
Keep living in fear.
Edit: the 2017-18 flu season in WI saw 379 flu deaths, more than double normal which would bring the fatality rate ABOVE COVID. Did you "go virtual" in that terrible terrible dangerous flu season? I'll check back for your answer.
To answer your question NO we didn’t go virtual. Two reasons.
1. We got our flu shots.
2. We weren’t helping my wife’s grandmother rehab after her hip replacement after her fall this August.
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