galaxy flyer

It’s well known the vaccines produce a reaction, most reactions are mild fever, chills, sore arm at injection site. They’re gone usually in 24 hours. The spike in VAERS reporting is likely because of it being “advertised” and everyone and their kid brother put in a report for a sore arm. I got my flu shot last week, arm was sore for 48 hours, is it an adverse reaction or an expected, normal reaction? I went with the later and didn’t report it, I could have, though. Just as if I was killed in a far accident on the ride home, my wife could have attributed my death to the shot because if I didn’t go get it, I wouldn’t have been in the car to have an accident.

If anyone has a real study confirming VAERS reports with medical autopsies showing vaccine was the causal factor in the deaths, I’m all eyes to read it. Otherwise it’s whistling Dixie.

GeeWizDriver

That’s the point. They’re not investigating the VAERS reports. The majority of the medical establishment is on board with Vax ONLY, especially the government medical establishment. They don’t want to do anything that even hints at challenging the narrative.

beetlehog

I am not sure you remember but a vaccine was made for SARS Covi 1 about 20 years ago and was shut down after around 20 people died. Based on settled safety measure it was deemed far too dangerous to continue. This current concoction is far worse but it seems we just keep drumming away at the vaxx narrative and most people are ok with that I guess. It is logical that the curators of VAERS would of course say their numbers are crap because that is the current narrative being pushed. Do you contend that their are no deaths from the vaccine or no adverse reactions because I have seen countless reports on several different podcasts with personal testimonies of major injuries along with the social media posts of deaths to teenagers which is always very, very tragic because in most cases it is absolutely idiotic to vaccinate young folks for this. I shut off my TV about 1 year ago because the news is all corporate controlled crap. They are shills for Pfizer currently. I am absolutely done with the MSM. They are largely a big bunch of liars.

CoefficientX

A week ago or so someone posted the OSHA Q and A regarding whether adverse vax reactions needed to be reported or not. OSHA chose to not require any adverse reactions be reported.

Can anyone explain in common sense terms why they have chosen to squelch the reporting of adverse reactions?? I do my best to be as open minded as possible but can’t wrap my head around burying adverse reactions.

Would this be ok with ASAP reports? Was it okay that Boeing buried things regarding the Max? Isn’t the whole point of reporting things like adverse reactions to make things safer moving forward?

That one little nugget in the Q and A should trouble all of us, pro or anti vax mandate.

ClncClarence

SARS-CoV-1 infected a grand total of ~8500 worldwide. A vaccine wouldn’t have even been worth producing on a large scale. Besides, the vaccines in development were not the same delivery mechanisms as those for C19. Your comparison is asinine.

Any source for the ‘far worse’ comment other than your a$$? There are precisely zero credible studies that support the idea that these vaccines pose any sort of non-standard risk in the short or long term. Your claim is asinine.

No, it’s not logical at all. If they wanted to suppress the data why would they make it publicly available. Do you actually read what you’re writing? Your assertion is asinine.

No…never said that or anything close to that. Nice straw man though. You claimed that 16k people died from the vaccine. Patently false. Your argument is asinine.

Oh boy…stop the presses! beetlehog has podcasts, personal testimonies, and social media posts! Pack it up, we’re done here! Hope Johns Hopkins can keep the lights on now that all those prospective med students are realizing their degrees are worthless with the advent of social media.

I actually mostly agree with this in spirit. CNN, Fox, MSNBC et al. are now entertainment networks, no longer trustworthy news networks.

SIUav8er

Assuming this is a rhetorical question. They dont want to fuel more vaccine hesitancy. Obviously.

This has long stopped being about health or a virus. Its become litmus test to see who follows orders and who doesnt.

​​​​​​Im really looking forward to hearing the "pro mandate" people cope after everyone is vaccinated and people are still getting sick with Covid.

jtbost

You should get your wish as people will be getting “sick from Covid” until the end of time. The vaccinated have the best chance of staying out of the hospital and off the breathing machines. Good luck to you.

MongoC5

The majority issue is people were told, meant to believe, etc the vaccine keeps COVID away and you will not get it. That’s false. It’s no different than the flu vaccine. It’s meant to keep you from dying or becoming so sick you can’t recover from home.

Mongo

rickair7777

They were told that because it was true... all the pre-EUA trials were done before delta. 95% efficacy, and they made no promises about longevity because they didn't know and it didn't matter... the idea was to open up society, and many folks needed a vaccine for that.

Delta is more contagious, and more prone to breakthrough but the vaccines still keep you out of the hospital.

Not surprising that boosters and/or updates are likely to be required, waning anti-bodies and new variants were always in the cards and nobody ever said they weren't.



Anecdotally...

I knew two people who got covid 1.0 (one was already terminal in a nursing home so she died, but I count that as with covid, not from covid).

In the last few months I know a bunch of vaccinated people who got a non-trivial flu-like experience from delta. I had a mild sniffle for a few days. Personally I now know one un-vaccinated person who has died, and my good friend just lost her sister-in-law a few days ago.

Mesabah

I know two people who died of Covid, one in 2020, and the other a few months ago while being fully vaccinated. However, do either really count, because both would have died of the flu as well, they were in such poor health.