Will airlines force employees get vaccine??
02-10-2021, 08:55 PM
#411
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That is not necessarily true. Non-Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease (NAFLD) is actually caused by insulin resistance which is caused by a diet too high in carbohydrates. A moderate protein, high fat, low carbohydrate diet has been very successful in reversing NAFLD, Type 2 Diabetes, high blood pressure, and a number of other adverse medical conditions.
Just another example of how the medical establishment would rather sell you a pill than fix your problem at the source.
Now, back to the merits of taking the Fauci Ouchie...
02-11-2021, 06:29 AM
#412
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Pfizer and BioNTech have shared (PDF) phase 1/2 data suggesting their COVID-19 vaccine triggers stronger CD8 T-cell responses than Moderna’s rival candidate. Four-fifths of subjects who received BNT162b1 had vaccine-induced CD8 T-cell responses and researchers classed most of the responses as strong.
02-11-2021, 07:22 AM
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The bureaucrats just can't come out and say that until they have some data.
But nobodies getting forced regardless. You might have to make some some career/lifestyle adjustments, but if you don't want the vaccine you won't have to get it (in the US).
Update: Now CDC policy seems to imply that the vaccine will prevent spread...
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2AB0EG
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02-11-2021, 07:24 AM
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Thread de-rail alert.
That is not necessarily true. Non-Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease (NAFLD) is actually caused by insulin resistance which is caused by a diet too high in carbohydrates. A moderate protein, high fat, low carbohydrate diet has been very successful in reversing NAFLD, Type 2 Diabetes, high blood pressure, and a number of other adverse medical conditions.
Just another example of how the medical establishment would rather sell you a pill than fix your problem at the source.
Now, back to the merits of taking the Fauci Ouchie...
That is not necessarily true. Non-Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease (NAFLD) is actually caused by insulin resistance which is caused by a diet too high in carbohydrates. A moderate protein, high fat, low carbohydrate diet has been very successful in reversing NAFLD, Type 2 Diabetes, high blood pressure, and a number of other adverse medical conditions.
Just another example of how the medical establishment would rather sell you a pill than fix your problem at the source.
Now, back to the merits of taking the Fauci Ouchie...
02-11-2021, 10:59 AM
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02-11-2021, 11:18 AM
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https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-re...phase-12-study
- Analysis of 37 participants immunized with BNT162b2 showed a broad immune response with SARS-CoV-2-specific neutralizing antibodies, TH1 type CD4+ T cells, and strong expansion of CD8+ T cells of the early effector memory phenotype
- All vaccinated participants demonstrated neutralizing antibody as well as T cell responses. T cell responses were directed against multiple regions of the spike protein, including the RBD, suggesting immune recognition of multiple independent epitopes.
And another...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...covid-variants
People who have received two doses of the Pfizer vaccine have been found to have strong T-cell responses against the Kent and South African variants of Covid, suggesting that the vaccine will continue to protect against serious disease in the coming months.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....09.20245175v1
Concurrently, in most participants, S-specific CD8+ and T helper type 1 (TH1) CD4+ T cells had expanded, with a high fraction producing interferon-γ (IFNγ). Using peptide MHC multimers, the epitopes recognised by several BNT162b2-induced CD8+ T cells when presented on frequent MHC alleles were identified. CD8+ T cells were shown to be of the early-differentiated effector-memory phenotype, with single specificities reaching 0.01-3% of circulating CD8+ T cells. In summary, vaccination with BNT162b2 at well tolerated doses elicits a combined adaptive humoral and cellular immune response, which together may contribute to protection against COVID-19.
02-11-2021, 11:31 AM
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Thread de-rail alert.
That is not necessarily true. Non-Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease (NAFLD) is actually caused by insulin resistance which is caused by a diet too high in carbohydrates. A moderate protein, high fat, low carbohydrate diet has been very successful in reversing NAFLD, Type 2 Diabetes, high blood pressure, and a number of other adverse medical conditions.
Just another example of how the medical establishment would rather sell you a pill than fix your problem at the source.
Now, back to the merits of taking the Fauci Ouchie...
That is not necessarily true. Non-Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease (NAFLD) is actually caused by insulin resistance which is caused by a diet too high in carbohydrates. A moderate protein, high fat, low carbohydrate diet has been very successful in reversing NAFLD, Type 2 Diabetes, high blood pressure, and a number of other adverse medical conditions.
Just another example of how the medical establishment would rather sell you a pill than fix your problem at the source.
Now, back to the merits of taking the Fauci Ouchie...
He gets it...
The human body is an amazing thing, the pharma mafia does not want you to know this. They want you to immediately jump to use their products instead of relying on your body’s own healing strengths. If anyone says otherwise, they are immediately labeled as an anti vaxxer, conspiracy theorist or something else. The power of propaganda is incredibly strong.
02-11-2021, 11:55 AM
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My bad...here’s yet another release from Pfizer that says the same thing about the current vaccine. You’re still wrong.
https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-re...phase-12-study
And another...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...covid-variants
And another...
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....09.20245175v1
Is that enough? Perhaps you should try to learn Google as well.
https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-re...phase-12-study
And another...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...covid-variants
And another...
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....09.20245175v1
Is that enough? Perhaps you should try to learn Google as well.
02-11-2021, 12:28 PM
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No, that’s NOT what you said. You said...
This is a 100% false statement. You said you wanted T-cell memory and ‘not just antibodies that go away’.
The mRNA vaccines provide T-cell immunity. You said they didn’t. That’s what I called out.
The mRNA vaccines do not give you the CD8 response.
The mRNA vaccines provide T-cell immunity. You said they didn’t. That’s what I called out.
02-11-2021, 01:01 PM
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Like double masking, double vaxing is actually a thing. They want to give you both vaccines, so you get the T-cell training of the VV, combined with the antibody response of the mRNA. https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...01.28.428665v1
The mRNA vaccines do not give you the CD8 response. For me, I want the additional T-cell memory, I don't care about antibodies that go away in a few months.
The mRNA vaccines do not give you the CD8 response. For me, I want the additional T-cell memory, I don't care about antibodies that go away in a few months.
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