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Old 12-02-2020, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
A vaccine passport. Already an internationally accepted document.



I was referring to the tests, not mitigation. The early state of testing in the US was terrible. Multiple companies making tests without quality control caused a higher error than the rest of the world. My point is why would a country accept test results when they can verify the accuracy of the test. It’s much easier to verify vaccination than it is to prove who already had it.
Actually, the early tests sucked worldwide. At the height of their first surge,both Italy and Spain sent back Chinese tests that proved next to worthless.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52092395

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/27/coronavirus-test-kits-withdrawn-spain-poor-accuracy-rate
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Old 12-02-2020, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
A vaccine passport. Already an internationally accepted document.



I was referring to the tests, not mitigation. The early state of testing in the US was terrible. Multiple companies making tests without quality control caused a higher error than the rest of the world. My point is why would a country accept test results when they can verify the accuracy of the test. It’s much easier to verify vaccination than it is to prove who already had it.

Why not use the same app to be able to log an antibodies test...?


Point being I can prove an antibodies test as easily as a vaccination.

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Old 12-02-2020, 12:36 PM
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[QUOTE=2StgTurbine;3165697]A vaccine passport. Already an internationally accepted document.


No need for any type of vaccine passport. Those who have been vaccinated will clearly make a bleating noise when needed to prove it 🐑 😬
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Old 12-02-2020, 12:43 PM
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No need for any type of vaccine passport. Those who have been vaccinated will clearly make a bleating noise when needed to prove it 🐑 😬
Who would have thought that endangering your own and the public's health was some sort of statement of rugged individualism and defiance.

Way to stick it to the man.
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Old 12-02-2020, 01:18 PM
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I’m going to take it, and I’m in group 1, so it should be soon-ish. I’ll let y’all know how it goes.

I heard a rumor that one of the side effects involves eliminating the Irish Curse, so here’s to hoping.
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I heard a rumor that one of the side effects involves eliminating the Irish Curse.
Apostrophes?
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Old 12-02-2020, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
A vaccine passport. Already an internationally accepted document.


No need for any type of vaccine passport. Those who have been vaccinated will clearly make a bleating noise when needed to prove it 🐑 😬
Oh good grief. Some of you sound like you’re straight out of a anti-vaccine Mombie Facebook group.

Don’t get the vaccine. The rest of us that are ready to travel and move on with normalcy will take it and move on with their lives. Hopefully one of my unemployed friends can take your spot.
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Old 12-02-2020, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
Why not use the same app to be able to log an antibodies test...?


Point being I can prove an antibodies test as easily as a vaccination.

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​​​​​​I think we’re a ways off (if ever) from anything mandatory. No way it’ll happen under “Emergency Use”…which will last a few more months. Then there will still be plenty of people wanting it (supply limited)…so no need to mandate anything at this point. Then when everybody who wants it and has gotten it (maybe summertime?)…mandates could be an option? It’ll just depend on what the virus is doing but I’m betting at this point the curve is way down.

Our mgmt (B6) has been advocating for some kind of standardized “health” passport that all airlines would use. It would show either a vaccine OR a recent negative test. This makes sense to me. Antibody tests makes sense too but it’d have to have some recency and so not sure that would work.
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Old 12-02-2020, 04:00 PM
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Many of the thoughts of mandates were written about with the assumption the vaccine wouldn’t be that great…~ 50% efficacy was talked about.

But if the vaccine actually turns out to be as good as advertised (efficacy wise and preventing spread [which is expected]) and enough people take it…I could see things going back to normal flying w/out any mandates, passports, etc.

Just my Wednesday night deep thoughts
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
Why not use the same app to be able to log an antibodies test...?


Point being I can prove an antibodies test as easily as a vaccination.

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Why not? Doesn't matter. Where you want to be, where you want to go... they want to see proof of vaccine.

We can argue the difference, and there is a difference, but you'll need to thread that needle. Is it worth it?
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